How Can Abelian Integrals Be Simplified for Beginners?

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The discussion centers on the simplification and understanding of abelian integrals, particularly from a geometric perspective. Participants explore various approaches to grasp the concept, including algebraic functions, numerical integration, and the role of Riemann surfaces.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding abelian integrals and seeks references that provide a clearer geometric perspective.
  • Another participant explains the implicit definition of algebraic functions and suggests that understanding can be enhanced by plotting and numerically integrating these functions.
  • A request for explicit examples is made, highlighting concerns about the complexity of the integrals and their geometric interpretations.
  • An example of an algebraic function and its corresponding abelian integral is provided, detailing the process of solving for w and evaluating the integral while considering its multivalued nature.
  • Discussion includes the mention of using the Residue Theorem for solving more complicated integrals, indicating alternative methods exist.
  • One participant notes that the theory is framed in terms of Riemann surfaces and meromorphic functions, acknowledging the complexity of the subject.
  • A participant expresses gratitude for the assistance and indicates a willingness to return for further help if needed.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to simplify abelian integrals, with multiple viewpoints and methods presented. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective way to convey the concepts to beginners.

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Participants highlight the multivalued nature of functions and the importance of carefully choosing integration paths, indicating that assumptions about the functions and their behavior are critical to the discussion.

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Hi guys!

Looking at the wiki page for abelian integrals I get no intuition on these scary monsters, & since I'm still not 100% ready as regards all the material in the chapters preceeding sections on abelian integrals in the reference books mentioned on that page I'd think I'd have problems trying to learn about such a topic at the moment, however after reading two pages of this paper you see Arnold talking about Abelian integrals as associating areas of algebraic oval's to lines intersecting such ovals! Do you guys know of any other reference that would go more in depth on these matters with this kind of unbelievably clear geometric perspective?
 
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What's not intutitive about it? We have the algebraic function, w(z), defined implicitly as:

f(z,w)=a_0(z)+a_1(z)w+\cdots+a_n(z)w^n=0

which is n-valued and then consider integrals of the type:

\int_{z_0}^z G(z,w(z)) dz

which since w(z) is n-valued, surely the integral is so depending upon which determination of w(z) the integration is taken over.

In my opinion, the best way to cultivate an intutitive understanding of this topic is to actually plot w(z), observe the sheeting of its cycles, create an abelian test integral, create a particular path over the sheeting, and then numerically integrate it over various paths over w(z) and observe how the integral changes.
 
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Could you give me an explicit example or two that you can both calculus & geometrically interpret?

Something like G(z,w(z)) already looks like it'll get so crazy it'll be completely unmanageable, unintegrable & geometrically makes no sense yet I seen that little picture Arnold drew & had a faint glimmer of hope there was a way to understand this :frown:
 
How about the algebraic function
f(z,w)=z+(3w^2-w+2)=0
and the abelian integral
\int_0^1 \frac{z}{w}dz

In this case we can solve explicitly for w:
w(z)=1/6(1+\sqrt{-23-12z})
and insert it directly into the integral
\int_0^1 \frac{z}{1/6(1+\sqrt{-23-12z})}dz
keeping in mind the root is actually multivalued so the integral actually represents two integrals which we can solve explicitly for antiderivatives A_i(z) and if we are careful to evaluate A(z) along the path in an analytically-continuous fashion, we may write:
\int_0^1 \frac{z}{w}dz=A_i(z)\biggr|_0^1,\quad i=1,2

For more complicated functions, w(z), we cannot compute a simple antiderivative like above but the principle is the same: we map the integration contour over a particular determination of w(z) and insert those values of w(z) into the integrand and evaluate the integral. It's not difficult to integrate them numerically also as long as the algorithm computes correctly the desired determination of w(z) to integrate over.

And there are other ways of solving these integrals. For example, a modified version of the Residue Theorem can be used in some cases.
 
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Yeah that's exactly the kind of thing I've been looking for, thanks!
 
The whole theory I believe is presented in terms of Riemann surfaces and the (single-valued) meromorphic functions over these surfaces. Like G(z,w)=\frac{z}{w}. That's a single-valued, analytic, nicely-behaved, meromorphic function over the Riemann surface of w(z) even though it's a multi-valued function because of w(z).

Me personally, the subject is a formadiable undertaking but interesting nevertheless.
 
Thanks a lot for the help, if I get stuck I might pop back again if you don't mind.
 

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