How can I calculate a rotation using geometric algebra?

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The discussion focuses on calculating a vector rotation using geometric algebra, specifically the formula e^{-B \frac{\pi}{2}}(2e_{1}+3e_{2}+e_{3})e^{B\frac{\pi}{2}}. Participants explore whether to substitute trigonometric identities for the exponential terms or convert the vector into a complex number for calculations. Clarification is sought on the role of the bivector B and its properties in the rotation formula. The conversation indicates confusion about the computation process and the resulting vectors not being orthogonal after the rotation. The thread highlights the complexity of applying geometric algebra to practical calculations.
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Hi, I want to calculate a rotation of a vector GA style with this formula e^{-B \frac{\pi}{2}}(2e_{1}+3e_{2}+e_{3})e^{B\frac{\pi}{2}}. Now since no book/pdf on GA exists where a calculation is explicitly done with numbers, I wounder how to calculate this. Should I substitude e^{-B \frac{\pi}{2}}=cos (\frac{\pi}{2})-Bsin(\frac{\pi}{2})(same for the other term) and see what I get, or should I convert the vector into a complex number and then convert it into the exponential form and then multiply it? Or how is this done? By the way, how do I convert a vector in R^{3} into a complex number? Multiply on the left with e_{1}e_{2}? In R^{2} it is just multiplication by e_{1} on the left.
 
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Hi, I want to calculate a rotation of a vector GA style with this formula e^{-B \frac{\pi}{2}}(2e_{1}+3e_{2}+e_{3})e^{B\frac{\pi}{2}}. Now since no book/pdf on GA exists where a calculation is explicitly done with numbers, I wounder how to calculate this. Should I substitude e^{-B \frac{\pi}{2}}=cos (\frac{\pi}{2})-Bsin(\frac{\pi}{2})(same for the other term) and see what I get, or should I convert the vector into a complex number and then convert it into the exponential form and then multiply it? Or how is this done? By the way, how do I convert a vector in R^{3} into a complex number? Multiply on the left with e_{1}e_{2}? In R^{2} it is just multiplication by e_{1} on the left.
Is B the imaginary unit?

Your question is unclear. I am particularly confused by your conjugation by "e^{-B\frac{\pi}{2}}," since I'm not sure how it is acting.

Would you please clarify?
 
Hi Pond Dragon. Sry, the general formula for a rotation is defined as a^{,}= RaR^{\dagger} Where R=nm and R^{\dagger}=mn. Now one uses B= \frac{m\wedge n}{sin \phi}, B^{2}=-1 (unit bivector) and rewrites R=cos \frac{\phi}{2} -B sin \frac{\phi}{2}=e^{-B \frac{\phi}{2}} and R^{\dagger}= cos \frac{\phi}{2} +B sin \frac{\phi}{2}=e^{B \frac{\phi}{2}}. Hope that helps !
Thx for reply.
 
JonnyMaddox said:
Hi Pond Dragon. Sry, the general formula for a rotation is defined as a^{,}= RaR^{\dagger} Where R=nm and R^{\dagger}=mn. Now one uses B= \frac{m\wedge n}{sin \phi}, B^{2}=-1 (unit bivector) and rewrites R=cos \frac{\phi}{2} -B sin \frac{\phi}{2}=e^{-B \frac{\phi}{2}} and R^{\dagger}= cos \frac{\phi}{2} +B sin \frac{\phi}{2}=e^{B \frac{\phi}{2}}. Hope that helps !
Thx for reply.
So, you don't know how to compute the product? It looks like you could just apply definitions.
 
Hi again, so you think this is the right way

(cos \frac{\pi}{2}-Bsin\frac{\pi}{2})(2e_{1}+3e_{2}+e_{3})=-e_{1}B2-e_{2}B3-e_{3}B

then from the right
(-e_{1}B2-e_{2}B3-e_{3}B)(cos\frac{\pi}{2}+Bsin\frac{\pi}{2})=-2e_{1}-3e_{2}+e_{3}
It should be a rotation of 90 degrees, but the two vectors are not orthogonal hm.
 

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