How can I calculate the maximum impact force on the helmet?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum impact force that a bicycle helmet must withstand when subjected to a drop test. The original poster is exploring the dynamics of helmet design and impact testing, specifically in relation to a 5kg head model dropped from a height of 1.064m onto an anvil.

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  • Participants discuss standard testing methods for helmets and question the relevance of the original poster's approach. There are inquiries about the type of helmet being tested and the implications of impact duration on force calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about engineering principles and seeks guidance on estimating maximum force without conducting physical tests.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into helmet testing standards and the nature of impact forces. Some participants have raised questions about the relationship between impact duration and helmet design, while the original poster is seeking clarity on how to proceed given their constraints.

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The original poster indicates that they are not able to conduct physical experiments due to lack of conditions, which may affect the discussion on estimating impact forces. There is also a mention of the project being related to a design course rather than a traditional homework assignment.

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I am studying the force that helmets have to withstand. If I drop a 5kg head model and helmet at 1.064m on an anvil and the impact time is 0.005 seconds, how do I get the 'maximum' impact load on the helmet?
 
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berkeman said:
Welcome to PF.

Have you looked into the standard test methods for various helmets? There is no need to re-invent the wheel when it comes to helmet testing, IMO.

Also, what kind of helmets do you want to test? Street bike, dirt bike, skateboard, bicycle, etc.?

Multiple helmet testing resources at Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.ph...lmet+testing&fulltext=1&profile=default&ns0=1
Thanks for your reply.
I am planning to design a new bicycle helmet using the generative design tool of Fusion360. I posted a question because I needed to know the maximum force that a bicycle helmet has to withstand in helmet test, but I couldn't get it. The helmet experiment is not possible because of the lack of conditions.
Is there a way to get it in this situation?
 
Is this a homework problem? I ask because you are specifying the duration of impact, which is a direct result of the design of the helmet. Also, for a given impact duration, the maximum impact load depends on the design of the helmet.

An elastic impact will have higher peak force than a plastic (constant force) impact. Can you explain why?
 
Jun said:
I am planning to design a new bicycle helmet
Then the specific Wikipedia article on bicycle helmets (out of the full list of different helmets that I posted) should help: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_helmet
 
jrmichler said:
Is this a homework problem? I ask because you are specifying the duration of impact, which is a direct result of the design of the helmet. Also, for a given impact duration, the maximum impact load depends on the design of the helmet.

An elastic impact will have higher peak force than a plastic (constant force) impact. Can you explain why?
It's not homework. I am a student majoring in design, and I want to design a new helmet shape. I asked because I don't know much about engineering. I specified the duration of impact as 0.005 because I thought it is easier to answer if the conditions are clearly given.
 
Jun said:
It's not homework. I am a student majoring in design, and I want to design a new helmet shape.
Per the PF rules, schoolwork projects should be posted in the Homework Help forums. I'll move your thread there now, leaving a redirect link behind in this technical forum. :smile:
 
Jun said:
the maximum force that a bicycle helmet has to withstand
Withstand, as in remain undamaged? Helmets are designed to be damaged (plastic deformation) since that minimises the impulse transferred to the head as well making the force profile flatter.
 
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