How can I express the force in Special Relativity using four momentum?

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The discussion revolves around expressing force in the context of Special Relativity using four momentum. Participants are examining the relationship between force, four momentum, and four velocity, particularly focusing on the implications of differentiating these quantities.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring the differentiation of momentum to derive force and questioning whether the original expressions apply to four momentum and four velocity. There is also a discussion about the correctness of the problem statement and the definitions of relevant terms.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants offering insights into the definitions of four momentum and four force, while others express skepticism about the validity of the proposed expression for four force. Multiple interpretations of the problem statement are being explored.

Contextual Notes

There are indications that the problem may have been formulated incorrectly, leading to confusion about the applicability of certain expressions to four velocity versus three velocity. Participants are also questioning the assumptions underlying the definitions used in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



To write the expression of force in STR

\ F=\frac{dp}{dt}=\ m\gamma\ a +\ m\gamma\frac{\ u .\ a}{\ c^2 -\ u^2}\ u

Here a is acceleration

Homework Equations



I used the equation \ p=\gamma\ m\ u

I interpreted F as four force,p as four momentum, a as four-acceleration, u as four velocity etc...

The Attempt at a Solution



Mere differentitation is giving the answer;But I do not know if the method is correct.Because, \ p=\gamma\ m\ u for 3 velocity---that's for sure.But is it also true for four velocity and four momentum?
 
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It occurs to me that you can pretty much answer your own question just by looking up the definitions of "4-momentum", "4-velocity" and "4-force"...surely your text has those definitions?
 
Seems my instructor did not formulated the problem in the correct way.The expression is for 3velocity;that for 4 velocity is not that simple.
 
What exactly is the problem statement?
 
To show that 4force can be expressed as

<br /> \ F=\frac{dp}{dt}=\ m\gamma\ a +\ m\gamma\frac{\ u .\ a}{\ c^2 -\ u^2}\ u<br />
 
But it can't be expressed that way...for starters, if \textbf{F} is the 4-force, \textbf{P} the 4-momentum and \tau the proper time, then

\textbf{F}=\frac{d\textbf{P}}{d\tau}\neq\frac{d\textbf{P}}{dt}
 
yea,I also suspect that the expression is not meant for 4 force.
 

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