How can I integrate v² / (v² + 4) using arctan and u substitution?

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The problem involves integrating the expression v² / (v² + 4). Participants are exploring methods related to arctan and u substitution in the context of integration techniques.

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  • The original poster attempts to use u substitution with v = (u/2) but finds that it does not eliminate the v² term in the numerator. Another participant suggests integration by parts and substitution, questioning the form of the integral. Others propose polynomial division as a method to simplify the expression before integrating.

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Participants are actively discussing various methods to approach the integration problem. Some have provided alternative strategies and expressed differing opinions on the effectiveness of their approaches. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but multiple interpretations and techniques are being explored.

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There is a mention of the original poster's confusion regarding the integration form and the implications of using arctan versus logarithmic functions. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the best approach to take given the structure of the integral.

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Homework Statement



how do i integrate

v^2 / v^2 + 4

Homework Equations



i understand this has something to do with arctan

but if i use u substitution to let v=(u/2) so (on the bottom) it becomes (1/4)(1+(v/2)^2)

there's still a v^2 on the top which the u substitution does not get rid of. Help :[


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this is a bit of a gues but why don't you write it as

[itex]\int \frac{v}{2} \frac{2v}{v^2+4} dv[/itex]

then do it by parts but for the 2nd term you can substitute [itex]u=v^2+4[/itex] giving [itex]\frac{du}{u}[/itex].

you'll get logs not arctans which i reckon is true because the your integral isn't of the form [itex]\int \frac{dx}{x^2+a^2}[/itex]
 
Use polynomial division to rewrite [tex]\frac{v^2}{v^2 + 4}[/tex] as [tex]1 - \frac{4}{v^2 + 4}[/tex]. Can you integrate it now?
 
...or that lol!

would't my method work as well?
 
latentcorpse said:
...or that lol!

would't my method work as well?

Doing it your way, you'd have to evaluate [tex]\int ln(x^2+4)[/tex] which evaluates to

[tex]4 tan^{-1}\left(\frac{x}{2}\right) + x \left(ln(x^2+4) - 2\right)[/tex]

My way seems to be easier.

Let me summarize what happens your way, I switched v's to x's.

[tex]\int \frac{x^2}{x^2+4} dx = \int \frac{x}{2} \frac{2x}{x^2+4} dx = \frac{x}{2} ln(x^2+4) - \frac{1}{2} \int ln(x^2+4) dx = \frac{x}{2} ln(x^2+4) - \frac{1}{2} \left(4 tan^{-1}\left(\frac{x}{2}\right) + x \left(ln(x^2+4) - 2\right)\right)[/tex]

Now obviously [tex]\frac{x}{2} ln(x^2+4)[/tex] will cancel and you will be left with

[tex]x - 2 tan^{-1}\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)[/tex]

This is the exact same answer you get if you do it my way:

[tex]\int \frac{x^2}{x^2+4} dx = \int 1 - \frac{4}{x^2+4} dx = x - 4\left(\frac{1}{2} tan^{-1}\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)\right) = x - 2 tan^{-1}\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)[/tex]
 
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