How can I properly constrain a 3D truss beam in ANSYS using only beam elements?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the proper constraints for modeling a 3D truss beam in ANSYS using only beam elements. Participants are exploring the coupling of degrees of freedom (DOFs) between truss members, particularly focusing on how to manage translational and rotational constraints without overconstraining the system.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their approach to coupling translational DOFs at joints where different truss members meet, but expresses uncertainty about how to handle rotational constraints.
  • Another participant suggests merging chord keypoints while deselecting lattice member keypoints and creating coupled DOFs for translations only between lattice member nodes and the chord node.
  • There is a proposal that no rotational coupling should exist between lattice members and chords, raising concerns about potential rotations of the lattice members about their own axes.
  • A later reply discusses possible methods to constrain rotational DOFs in ANSYS, mentioning the release of certain rotational DOFs at the ends of lattice members and the use of torsional springs for chords.
  • One participant mentions discovering an ANSYS element (MPC184) that may help simulate a joint with a local coordinate system.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate rotational constraints for lattice members, with some advocating for no rotational coupling while others question how to prevent unwanted rotations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to manage these constraints.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the optimal method for rotational coupling in the context of 3D truss modeling, and there are uncertainties regarding the specific capabilities of ANSYS in this regard.

AJ Kazakov
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Hello!
I'm trying to model my truss with FEM using only beam elements in ANSYS, but I am experiencing difficulties with the constraints between the members (or coupling of the DOFs).
For instance, I want my truss chords to be continuous and my lattice members to be pinned to them. I couple all of the translational DOFs, but don't know what to do with the rotational ones.
I would appreciate any help with that. :confused:
 
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How do you couple all the translational DOF's?
 
I set the nodes of the different elements in a single joint to have the same translations e.g. two diagonals and a vertical meet the chord at the same joint, the chord is rigid (continuous), and the end nodes of the diagonals and the vertical have the same translations as the node of the chord at that joint. But what about the rotations? I don't want to overconstrain the lattice members, but make them pinned to the chord.
 
AJ Kazakov: Perhaps try this. When you merge chord keypoints, deselect lattice member keypoints. I.e., do not merge lattice member keypoints. Then, create coupled dof, for translations only, between the lattice member nodes and the chord node (?).
 
nvn said:
AJ Kazakov: Perhaps try this. When you merge chord keypoints, deselect lattice member keypoints. I.e., do not merge lattice member keypoints. Then, create coupled dof, for translations only, between the lattice member nodes and the chord node (?).

This works with trusses in 2D.
But let's consider this truss in 3D:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/839/pg60.png

What rotational coupling should I have for my lattice members with the chord?
 
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AJ Kazakov said:
But let's consider this truss in 3D. What rotational coupling should I have for my lattice members with the chord?
None. You should have no rotational coupling (about the x, y, and z axes) of the lattice members with each chord.
 
nvn said:
None. You should have no rotational coupling (about the x, y, and z axes) of the lattice members with each chord.

But aren't the lattice members going to rotate about their own axes then? The same goes for the middle chord. How to constrain them against that?
 
AJ Kazakov: Good point. I currently am not sure how to do it in Ansys. In other programs, I probably would release the beam element local Ry, Rz dof at end 1, and release Rx, Ry, Rz at end 2, on each lattice member, where, e.g., Rx = element rotational dof about the element local CS x axis. For the middle chord member, you could either torsionally constrain it to ground on one end, or else you could put a light torsional spring (kx = 1 N*mm/rad) to ground on one end.

Does Ansys have a beam element option to release beam element end dofs, perhaps called beam releases, or beam end releases?
 
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I have found one element in ANSYS - MPC184 (Multipoint Constraint) which can simulate a joint with a local coordinate system. I'll give it a try. :wink:
 

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