How can I solve this problem using implicit differentiation?

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The discussion revolves around the use of implicit differentiation to find the partial derivative \(\frac{\partial w}{\partial y}\) for the expression \(\frac{1}{w^2+x^2}+\frac{1}{w^2+y^2}\). Participants are attempting to clarify the setup and application of differentiation rules in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are discussing the correct application of implicit differentiation and the chain rule. There are questions about the dependencies of variables and the treatment of terms that do not involve \(y\). Some participants point out potential mistakes in the original poster's differentiation attempts.

Discussion Status

There is active engagement with multiple participants providing feedback and clarifications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of differentiation rules, and the original poster acknowledges the feedback received. However, there is no explicit consensus on the final approach or solution.

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Participants note that the original poster's problem statement may have lacked clarity, leading to confusion about the differentiation process. There are also mentions of specific algebraic errors that need to be addressed in the calculations.

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I unfortunately keep on getting the wrong answer to this problem.

I am supposed to find: dw/dy(1/(w^2+x^2)+1/(w^2+y^2))

I attached a picture of how I tried to solve it. Help would be much appreciated.
 

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Sebastian B said:
I unfortunately keep on getting the wrong answer to this problem.

I am supposed to find: dw/dy(1/(w^2+x^2)+1/(w^2+y^2))
No. What you wrote above doesn't mean what you think.
I believe what you are supposed to do is use implicit differentiation to find ##\frac{\partial w}{\partial y}##, although that is not clear from what you wrote on the first line. On the third line you have a mistake. Since ##\frac{1}{w^2 + x^2}## does not involve y, its partial derivative with respect to y is zero.
Sebastian B said:
I attached a picture of how I tried to solve it. Help would be much appreciated.
 
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That 2y should also be part of the multiplication. Double check your application of the chain rule on (w^2+y^2).
 
Sebastian B said:
I unfortunately keep on getting the wrong answer to this problem.

I am supposed to find: dw/dy(1/(w^2+x^2)+1/(w^2+y^2))
You mean that you need to find ∂w/∂y given that (1/(w2+x2)+1/(w2+y2)) = 1. Right ?

I attached a picture of how I tried to solve it. Help would be much appreciated.
Hello Sebastian B. Welcome to PF !

In your third equation, you need to have parentheses around ##\displaystyle \ \left( 2w\frac{\partial w}{\partial y}+2y \right) \ ## .

After that the algebra is messed up.

Don't forget; the right side of the equation is zero at that point.
 
Mark44 said:
No. What you wrote above doesn't mean what you think.
I believe what you are supposed to do is use implicit differentiation to find ##\frac{\partial w}{\partial y}##, although that is not clear from what you wrote on the first line. On the third line you have a mistake. Since ##\frac{1}{w^2 + x^2}## does not involve y, its partial derivative with respect to y is zero.

Mark 44: Thank you for your feedback. I realized that I wasn't clear enough with stating my problem, but you figured out what I meant. However,
\[\delta\]w/\[\delta\]y (w^2+x^2) does not equal zero, because w could be dependent on y
 
Ruber and Sammys thanks a lot for the feedback, it helped a lot! I finally figured it out and got the correct answer thanks to you guys. What a dumb error that was. Thanks again!
 

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