How Can I Use an Achromat Lens to Magnify an LCD on My Microscope?

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The discussion revolves around the use of an achromat lens to magnify the LCD screen of a camera attached to an Olympus microscope. Participants explore the feasibility of this approach, considering the limitations of the LCD resolution and alternative solutions for viewing images captured through the microscope.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the physics of achromat lenses and seeks guidance on which lens would be suitable for magnification.
  • Another participant questions the effectiveness of magnifying the LCD, suggesting that it may only enlarge the pixels without improving the view.
  • A different participant acknowledges the limitations of the LCD's resolution and suggests that magnifying it may not yield significant benefits.
  • One suggestion is made to consider replacing the Nikon camera with a digital SLR that offers real-time video output, which could provide a better solution for viewing images.
  • Participants discuss the potential for distortion when attempting to magnify a screen of that size, indicating challenges in achieving clear magnification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the practicality and effectiveness of using an achromat lens for magnifying the LCD screen. There is no consensus on whether this approach will yield satisfactory results, and alternative solutions are proposed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the limitations of the LCD's resolution and the potential for distortion when magnifying the screen. The discussion does not resolve these issues, leaving them open for further exploration.

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Hello all!

Again I am a lost molecular biologist in the realm of physics, but this question shouldn't be so difficult!

We are using an Olympus microscope to take pictures of our live cultures here in the lab and we have a real REAL old nikon attached to it to take pictures. I want to be able to magnify this thing so we have a nice view finder to proof our shots.

Another post-doc, who is a mechanical engineer, suggested using an achromat lens for a quick and effective fix. He's gone to a conference for the next week so I'm left with no guidance!

I've done a rough sketch of what the situation is...

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6290/achromat.png

I'm going to be picking up the lens from http://www.surplusshed.com/.

I have no idea at all which lens would be best. From what physicis I DO remember, in order for magnification to occur I'll need the object inside the focal length of the lens, yeah? I know that should work for a convex lens, but I have no idea the physics of an achromat lens...

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! :)
 
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You want to just magnify the LCD screen on the camera to view the image you took?

That probably isn't going to help, the LCD only has a limited number of pixels, magnifying it just shows you bigger pixels (whatever you see on CSI).
If it's a matter of being able to see the display - does the camera have a video out? Most digital cameras, even small compacts have a headphone type socket somehwere that you can plug into a TV/monitor to show the pictures
 
Hi mgb!

Thank you for the quick response.

The camera does have an AV out, but we have no space on the wall (shelves) or the bench to put an LCD monitor, otherwise this would have been the ideal option.

We can see the display well enough, but when you are looking at 293T cells, it's a pain to look at them in the small screen. We thought that magnifiying the screen would make it easier to identify certain cells, since what the camera captures is not exactly what is being seeing through the microscope.

If the achromat lens can at least enlarge the LCD by 50% then that would be worth it. But only if the magnification doesn't come at the cost of resolution...

Ideally I'm looking for a 3X magnification (similar to what we'd see in an small LCD monitor).

I'm open to any suggestions!

Thanks again! :)
 
You are going to have difficulties magnifying a screen that large without distortion, in which case you might as well just use something like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WUY8CY/?tag=pfamazon01-20

But the LCD is probably only 640*480, nothing like the full resolution of the camera. So you aren't gaining much by magnifying it
 
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Is the Nikon an SLR? If so, I'd consider replacing the Nikon with a digital SLR. You wouldn't need a fancy one, and some of the basic models are around $500-$700. You will want real-time video out, so make sure that's a priority.

However, there may be a much cheaper approach...

Gather the make/model of your microscope and call http://www.bhphotovideo.com/". They've been in the mail-order business for rock-bottom prices on professional equipment for decades, and their staff is very knowledgeable.

The staff can be a little short sometimes, though, so line your ducks up with the capabilities you want before you call them.

Good luck!
 
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