How Can Photons Be Manipulated to Move in the Same Direction?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the manipulation of photons to direct them in the same direction, exploring theoretical and practical methods for achieving this. Participants consider various approaches, including the use of lenses, mirrors, lasers, and parabolic reflectors, while addressing the challenges associated with ambient light and the nature of photon behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether there is a low-energy method to alter the path of photons, noting that they typically follow the shortest path and are influenced by gravitational fields.
  • Another participant suggests that ordinary light can be redirected using mirrors and lenses, although there is uncertainty about the effectiveness of lenses for directing ambient light.
  • A later reply proposes the use of mini-telescopes to collect light from various angles and transmit it in a desired direction, though this is deemed impractical.
  • One participant asserts that lasers are the most effective means of directing light, as they produce parallel photon travel and can manipulate light amplitudes.
  • Another participant references Liouville's theorem in relation to lens use, indicating that collimator lenses can reduce beam divergence by expanding beam size.
  • A suggestion is made to use a parabolic mirror to focus light from a spherical source, ensuring that all reflected rays travel in the same direction.
  • Concerns are raised about the necessity of the light source being small compared to the parabolic mirror for effective collimation, emphasizing that points and plane waves are often approximations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the methods for directing photons, with some suggesting practical solutions while others highlight limitations and challenges. There is no consensus on a definitive method or approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the dependence on the size of the light source relative to the optical elements used, as well as the assumptions involved in using mathematical models like Liouville's theorem and the behavior of light waves.

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Is there a low energy way to alter the path of a photon in the direction you want.

From what I've read on here photons pretty much follow the shortest path. Magnetic fields in energy levels that can be reasonably produced do nothing to alter their path. Large gravitational fields distort space-time which means photons aren't bending their still just following the shortest path.

I know some matter can reflect photons so there must be an interaction going on that can be used. Perhaps some kind of crystal or prism with the right attributes.

Ultimately what I want to know is if photons coming from all various directions can be made to move in the same direction.

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I don't know what frequencies you want to work with. However ordinary light can be changed in direction by mirrors and lenses.
 
mathman said:
I don't know what frequencies you want to work with. However ordinary light can be changed in direction by mirrors and lenses.

yes I want ordinary light.

Lenses I'm not sure will do the trick, I know they can focus or diffuse light, but I want to take ambient light and direct it.

For instance if whatever object I used was standing up right, light would be entering at all different angles, but it would only exit at 0 degrees to the horizon.
 
In theory it might be possible with a collection of mini-telescopes, each focused in one direction (as a receiver), covering all directions, and each then transmitting in the desired direction. It looks very impractical.
 
Lasers are, practically, the only way of directing light in one direction. Ie photons traveling is parallel. You could try looking at the different types of laser systems. Lasers tend to emplify light however they can also dampen light amplitudes depending what you want.
 
Novice4Life said:
Ultimately what I want to know is if photons coming from all various directions can be made to move in the same direction.
Liouville's theorem, applied to lenses, states in essence that the product of the beam spot size times the beam divergence is conserved. Look up

http://www.av8n.com/physics/phase-space-thin-lens.htm

Collimator lenses make beams less divergent by expanding the beam size.

Also Google Liouville's theorem phase space.

Bob S
 
Here's maybe what you are looking for. Arrange to have your (spherical = all directions) light source at the focus point of an arbitrarily large parabolic mirror:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parabolic_reflector

All reflected rays will travel in the same direction.
 
From

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parabolic_reflector

"...Conversely, a spherical wave generated by a point source placed in the focus is transformed into a plane wave propagating as a collimated beam along the axis."

I underlined the phrase point source placed at focus, because if it is not a point, then the reflected beam will have a divergence (is not a plane wave).

Bob S
 
In practice, the source has to be small compared to the parabola. Points and plane waves are like always, mathematical approximations/simplifications/assumptions.
 

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