How Can Riemann Sums Calculate the Volume of a Tepee Tent?

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The discussion revolves around using Riemann sums to develop a mathematical model for calculating the volume of a tepee tent, characterized by a hexagonal base and a height. Participants explore various approaches, including geometric formulas and integration techniques, while attempting to express the side length of the hexagon at different heights.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes synthesizing a mathematical model for the volume of a tepee tent using Riemann sums but expresses difficulty in defining the side length of the hexagon at a given height.
  • Another participant presents a geometric formula for the volume of the tent, decomposing the hexagonal base into equilateral triangles and deriving the volume through integration.
  • The volume is expressed as an integral involving the variable side length \(s(y)\), which is defined to vary linearly from \(s\) at the base to 0 at the top.
  • There is a request for clarification on the linear variation of \(s(y)\) and the derivation of its formula, indicating a need for deeper understanding of the mathematical reasoning involved.
  • Further clarification is sought on the process of determining \(s(y)\) using the point-slope formula, reinforcing the linear relationship between height and side length.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the use of Riemann sums versus direct integration for calculating the volume, indicating that multiple approaches are being considered without resolution on which is preferable.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the linearity of the side length with respect to height and relies on specific geometric properties of the hexagonal base. There are unresolved mathematical steps in transitioning from geometric formulas to Riemann sums.

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THE QUESTION
By using Riemann’s sum, synthesise a mathematical model for finding the exact volume of any ‘tepee’ tent of side s and height h.
HERE'S WHAT I HAVE
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Am currently stuck on writing a side length for the hexagon at any height 'x'
 

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Let's first find the volume using the geometric formula:

$$V=\frac{1}{3}bh$$

Now, the base is a regular hexagon having side lengths \(s\), which we can decompose into 6 equilateral triangles:

$$b=6\left(\frac{1}{2}s^2\sin\left(\frac{\pi}{3}\right)\right)=\frac{3\sqrt{3}}{2}s^2$$

Hence:

$$V=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}hs^2$$

Now, using volume by slicing we can integrate:

$$V=\frac{3\sqrt{3}}{2}\int_0^h s(y)^2\,dy$$

We know \(s(y)\) will vary linearly, where:

$$s(0)=s$$

$$s(h)=0$$

Thus:

$$s(y)=-\frac{s}{h}y+s$$

And so we may write:

$$V=\frac{3\sqrt{3}}{2}\int_0^h \left(-\frac{s}{h}y+s\right)^2\,dy$$

At this point, I would consider the substitution:

$$u=-\frac{s}{h}y+s\implies du=-\frac{s}{h}dy$$

$$V=\frac{3\sqrt{3}h}{2s}\int_0^s u^2\,du=\frac{3\sqrt{3}h}{2s}\left(\frac{s^3}{3}\right)=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}hs^2\quad\checkmark$$

It appears you are directly integrating rather than forming a Riemann sum. Is that on purpose, or are you integrating first, and then going to formulate the sum?
 
Could u explain the process at:
We know that s(y) will vary linearly such that:
s(0)=s
s(h)=0
∴s(y)= -s/h y+s
Thanks :D
 
MathsKid007 said:
Could u explain the process at:
We know that s(y) will vary linearly such that:
s(0)=s
s(h)=0
∴s(y)= -s/h y+s
Thanks :D

We know that at the bottom, where $$h=0$$, the length of the sides of the hexagonal cross section is $$s$$. We also know that at the top these sides lengths have diminished to 0. As they have diminished linearly, and we know two points on this line we have all we need to determine the side lengths as a function of the variable height $$y$$ using the definition of slope and the point-slope formula:

$$s(y)-s=\frac{0-s}{h-0}(y-0)$$

$$s(y)=-\frac{s}{h}y+s$$
 

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