How Can Sam Reach MIT for Electronics/Computer Sciences?

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The discussion revolves around the potential for a UK student, Sam, to gain admission to MIT for Electronics or Computer Sciences based on his academic performance and extracurricular activities. It includes considerations of academic qualifications, personal achievements, and motivations for pursuing higher education.

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  • Sam presents his GCSE and predicted A Level grades, expressing interest in attending MIT.
  • Some participants suggest that extensive extracurricular activities, research, and internships are necessary for a competitive application to MIT.
  • Sam mentions running a programming company with significant profits, which some participants believe strengthens his application.
  • Concerns are raised about the credibility of Sam's claims regarding his business success at a young age.
  • Several participants question the necessity of attending university if Sam is already earning a substantial income from his business.
  • Alternatives to MIT are proposed, including British universities that may offer comparable programs at lower costs.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of personal growth and networking opportunities that university can provide, beyond just financial motivations.
  • There is a suggestion that Sam should address his lower grades in humanities subjects if applying to top universities.

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Participants express a range of opinions on the value of attending university versus pursuing business opportunities. There is no consensus on whether Sam should apply to MIT or consider other universities, and doubts about his business claims remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the competitive nature of admissions to MIT and the importance of a well-rounded application, but specific requirements and standards are not universally agreed upon.

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Hi I’m just about to start my A Levels in the UK and for my GCSE's I got

English Lang B
English Lit B
Maths A
Science A*
Additional Science A*
RE B
Statistics B
IT (Diploma Worth 4 GCSE's) A
Graphic Products B
Engineering Level 2 BETC Distinction (Worth 2 GCSE @ A*)

I’m going to do at A Level and predicted

Computing A
Maths A/B
Physics A
Electronics A

With that could I get into somewhere like MIT to do Electonic Engineering/Computer Sciences as i learned C at the age of 14

Cheers Sam
 
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Not without extensive extracurricular activities, research/internships, or participation in competitions. The standards for Americans are almost perfect grades plus a lot of extras, and their standards for the few internationals they admit are even higher. So no, not without a lot of extra work because for MIT, perfect grades don't guarantee or even give you good odds at getting a spot unless you supplement it.
 
extracurricular activities: i run my own programming company which makes about $200,000 proft a year is that ok
 
Running your own company should definitely help. But you should probably take a look at http://web.mit.edu/registrar/stats/geo/index.html to get some idea of the odds though. There are currently 6 undergrad students from the UK at MIT, which means they admit 1-2 per year on average.
 
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samb53 said:
extracurricular activities: i run my own programming company which makes about $200,000 proft a year is that ok

"Is that ok"?

Why wouldn't you mention this in your first post? Do you feel that running a software company that nets $200K (UK) in profit is not important to disclose when asking about your chances of getting into MIT?

You mention "per year", so I'm assuming you've made around $200K for more than one year. Well done. If you are still unsure - yes, you should mention that on your application to MIT. It's a pretty decent extracurricular activity.
 
I agree - if you've made > $400,000 running a software company ($200k/year for more than one year), you should mention it. Of course, this can all be easily checked - and you should expect them to.
 
If you were making a hundred grand a year at 18, why on Earth would you want to go to university. Apart from garbages and giggles.
 
If he is just past GCSE's the OP must be around 15-16, he said he only learned C at 14. So he has learned C and built a 200k company in just over a year? I can't help but doubt this
 
h0dgey84bc said:
If he is just past GCSE's the OP must be around 15-16, he said he only learned C at 14. So he has learned C and built a 200k company in just over a year? I can't help but doubt this

Oh I doubt it too.

It just got me wondering, why would anyone go to university if they were earining 100 grand a year. Apart from 'for the hell of it'.

If I had a company that turned me 100 grand a year. I'd probably become a baker.
 
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samb53 said:
With that could I get into somewhere like MIT to do Electonic Engineering/Computer Sciences as i learned C at the age of 14

Why do you want to go to MIT? There are British universities that are as good if not better than MIT, and will cost a fraction of the price!
 
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Go to Portsmouth University like I did.
 
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cristo said:
Why do you want to go to MIT? There are British universities that are as good if not better than MIT, and will cost a fraction of the price!

I agree, Imperial College of London is a fine school
 
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xxChrisxx said:
If you were making a hundred grand a year at 18, why on Earth would you want to go to university. Apart from garbages and giggles.


Was this in jest?
 
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qntty said:
Was this in jest?

No.

Most people go to university to get a good job, and earn lots of cash in their chosen profession.

So let's see, he can put the £100 thousand a year business in programming on hold to go to university for what, 4 years, to learn wonderful things about computers.

To then graduate and attempt to get a job in something like progamming that pays lots of money, maybe even a 100 thousnd a year or so.

yes, indeed if that is the case it makes PERFECT sensse.
 
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As many people have said, there are fine institutions in the UK for you. If everything is as it seems, just take a look down the list of Russell Group universities and pick a few to apply to.
 
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If you are only motivated by money then there is no reason for you to go to University. But it's a great way to meet a wide variety of people and to learn new things.

The B's in the humanities subjects, especially English, are rather worrying. If you apply to Oxbridge and other top universities you should demonstrate that you have made some effort to improve in these areas. Having made a few bucks through hacking up some C code and selling it will not impress them that much. Some humility about your weaknesses and evidence that you have made some attempt to fix them might help. I recommend a course of great Victorian novels -- Dickens, Austen, Gaskell ...
 

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