How Can Surfboard Wax Avoid Sticking to Hair?

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The discussion revolves around improving a surfboard wax recipe to maintain its stickiness on the board while preventing it from sticking to hair. The conversation explores the formulation of the wax, the materials used, and the underlying biological interactions between the wax and human hair and skin.

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Main Points Raised

  • John shares his current surfboard wax formula of 3 parts beeswax and 1 part coconut oil, expressing frustration over the wax sticking to hair.
  • Some participants suggest incorporating resin or polyethylene waxes to potentially create a less-slip formula, questioning the role of coconut oil in the recipe.
  • Another participant explains that surfboard wax is designed to provide friction, which may inherently cause it to stick to hair due to the similar protein composition of skin and hair.
  • John clarifies that coconut oil is included to improve the application of the wax on the board and expresses uncertainty about the protein composition of hair versus skin.
  • A participant corrects John’s understanding, indicating that skin contains keratin, similar to hair, and discusses the properties of keratin in relation to skin strength and callus formation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of potential modifications to the wax formula and the biological interactions at play. There is no consensus on how to achieve the desired non-stick effect for hair.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the complexity of the interactions between surfboard wax and human hair and skin, highlighting the limitations of current formulations and the potential need for alternative solutions.

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Hello,

I'm looking to improve on a surfboard wax recipe. My goal is to still provide the same stickiness needed to stay on a board yet not stick to hair.

The current formula I use is very simple.

3 parts beeswax
1 part coconut oil

Obviously the beeswax mixture sticks to everything. I not sure even if there was something that I could add to prevent hair from sticking it would matter as the skin around the hair would still stick possibly ripping the hair out anyway.

More info then you probably need but I'm tired of having my hair ripped off my chest.

Any ideas other then me shaving, wearing a wetsuit, or telling me to get a lobotomy would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks,

-John
 
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I'm not sure if this makes sense or not, but would or could incorporation of a resin help you create a non-slip or less-slip formula? There are also such substances as polyethylene waxes; maybe one of those might(but not sure) give you some non-slip effect. Also, I wonder, why does your recipe (formula) include coconut oil?
 
Surfboard wax is designed to provide friction (or sticktion) for the user so you don't slip off. Since you skin and hair are composed of the same general class of protein (keratin), that which provides friction to the soles of your feet and torso must also provide friction to your body hair. You are probably going to be limited to using non-skid pads (ouch!) and eliminate the use of wax altogether.

Or... http://shop.versatraction.com/main.sc;jsessionid=4F20D8C67CA714873054281749FF2329.qscstrfrnt03" .
 
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Sorry for the slow response.

The coconut oil is used to increase the usability of the wax. Without the oil the wax doesn't apply to the board very easily.

I thought (and I could definitely be wrong here) that the protein that makes up hair and skin are different. If that's not the case then it's game over for me.

The link to the Waxless Surfboard System sounds interesting. Funny thing is they are only a couple of miles from my house.
 
You are probably thinking of skin being collagen rather than keratin. But it is certainly keratin along with some other proteins as well.

From Wiki,

Cells in the epidermis contain a structural matrix of keratin which makes this outermost layer of the skin almost waterproof, and along with collagen and elastin, gives skin its strength. Rubbing and pressure cause keratin to proliferate with the formation of protective calluses — useful for athletes and on the fingertips of musicians who play stringed instruments. Keratinized epidermal cells are constantly shed and replaced...
 

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