How Can the Minimum Distance x for Load P on a Movable Bracket Be Determined?

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The problem involves determining the minimum distance x for a load P on a movable bracket placed on a pipe, considering static friction and equilibrium conditions. The context is mechanical engineering, focusing on forces and moments in a system.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss equilibrium equations and the relationship between forces, noting the complexity due to multiple unknowns. There is a focus on the friction forces acting at different points on the pipe and the implications of the bracket's weightlessness.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations and the importance of considering the pipe's dimensions, but no consensus has been reached on a specific solution method.

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Participants note that the loading P is not specified, which affects the ability to provide a numerical answer. There are also references to an answer key that provides specific numerical choices, which some participants question in relation to the problem's requirements.

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Homework Statement


The movable bracket shown may be placed at any height on the 50-mm-diameter pipe. If the coefficient of static friction between the pipe and bracket is 0.30, determine the minimum distance x at which the load P can be supported. Assume that the bracket is weightless.
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Homework Equations


Sum of Forces and Moments = 0 for equilibrium
F_f = uN

The Attempt at a Solution


I got stuck after getting the equilibrium equations. Too many variables and not enough equations.
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Your FBD is oversimplified. The friction force acts at points A and B. The 50 mm diameter of the pipe must be accounted for. The friction force at A is acting on the left side of the pipe, and at B on the right side of the pipe. Also, the normal force N is related to the horizontal force components.
 
Is this what you are talking about?
With these equations I still have 4 unknowns and 3 equations
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A numnerical answer is not possible since the loading P is not known. Write your answer in terms of P.
 
There are 5 choices for the answer and they are all numerical answers
A. 0.025 m
B. 0.1667 m
C. 0.1920 m
D. 0.200 m
E. 0.217 m

According to the key, the answer is B
 
I hate it when that happens...

The answer key is correct. You have the equations that you need, except that x is measured from the centerline of the pipe, and so in eqn 3, the term on the left in parenthesis should be (x + 0.025).

Sub for NA in eqn 2 from eqn 1. Sub from that result for P into eqn 3. NB will cancel out; solve for x and you should get answer B.
 
Thank you very much.
I think the FBD part was the hardest part of the question. But once that is in place, everything falls together really well. I tend to have trouble with the FBD part and trying to think about how each force goes.
 

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