How can the power of thought and affirmations lead to rapid healing?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of rapid or "miracle" healing, emphasizing the role of the mind in recovery processes. Participants share personal experiences and anecdotes about quick recoveries that defy conventional medical predictions, suggesting that mental states and belief systems significantly influence healing outcomes. There is a focus on techniques such as biofeedback, affirmations, and relaxation methods that may enhance healing by fostering a positive mindset. The conversation also touches on the psychosomatic nature of ailments, proposing that emotional and mental conditions can manifest physically, leading to various health issues. Some contributors argue that traditional medical predictions can be overly pessimistic, potentially hindering patient recovery. The dialogue includes references to alternative therapies, the importance of self-awareness, and the potential for individuals to tap into their innate healing abilities through mental discipline and understanding of their bodies. Overall, the thread advocates for a holistic view of health that integrates mind and body, while also acknowledging skepticism regarding the statistical nature of miraculous recoveries.
  • #51
Originally posted by russ_watters
Thanks. It sounds like it isn't an herbal remedy though. Is it just not yet approved in the US? What is its status?

The Republic of the United States had not banned the use of Lysine. There seems to be more of a Democratic approach to the sale and distribution of that amino acid than there is in Canada.

I remember scoring some from a nervous Health Food guy in Canada. Imagine that... underground hippie health food dudes... vive la resistance!.
 
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  • #52
Healing.

Healing is internal.

Healing is something that takes place from inside of you.

Medicine is something that is applied from the outside.
 
  • #53
Originally posted by iron~orchid
Healing.

Healing is internal.

Healing is something that takes place from inside of you.

Medicine is something that is applied from the outside.

Yes... as a matter of fact this thread did start out with an intent to explore the possibility of people being able to heal dis-orders with the "mind over matter" methodology.

so that... lacking Lysine or any other type of external application... one might be able to heal a wound or a diabetes attack or a psychosis perhaps even if they find themself stuck in the Gobi Desert without provisions.

There may be one or two people that can do this in the world. But... I have a feeling the main thrust and jist of the whole philosophy is to avoid ever having a wound... diabetes or psychosis. This can be achieved through the skillfull stylings of one's own lifestyle.
 
  • #54
It is time for scientists to stop creating things that do more and more of the physical body processes. Many scientists already know that thought creates reality, and that thought can cure.

However, everybody is making big money on machines and drugs and nobody has yet figured out how to charge money for thought.

The expensive equipment introduced invented by evolving man for use in the medical field is a massive control dynamic that enables people to avoid thought, and it will get bigger and more complex as long as people buy into the idea that anybody or anything is limited.

The choice is between swimming in our own cellular memory or being wired into a mechanical matrix of absolute limitation. Because our brain is holographic, our self knows how to help change the behavior that limits the body by bringing on illness and accidents, etc.

There is much scientific evidence that the human brain is holographic. Neurophysiologist Karl Pribram and physicist David Bohm came to this conclusion independently in the '70s.

Therefore, an injury in part of the brain can be healed, and a change in thought can change the overall pattern. Another part of the brain can even take over the function of damaged sections in some cases because the brain is is holographic -- each part reflecting the whole pattern.

Of course, once the physical body has been sufficiently damaged, then surgery can be a blessing, for saving a life continues the possibility of figuring out how to create with pure thought.
 
  • #55
Originally posted by iron~orchid
It is time for scientists to stop creating things that do more and more of the physical body processes. Many scientists already know that thought creates reality, and that thought can cure.

However, everybody is making big money on machines and drugs and nobody has yet figured out how to charge money for thought.

The expensive equipment introduced invented by evolving man for use in the medical field is a massive control dynamic that enables people to avoid thought, and it will get bigger and more complex as long as people buy into the idea that anybody or anything is limited.

The choice is between swimming in our own cellular memory or being wired into a mechanical matrix of absolute limitation. Because our brain is holographic, our self knows how to help change the behavior that limits the body by bringing on illness and accidents, etc.

There is much scientific evidence that the human brain is holographic. Neurophysiologist Karl Pribram and physicist David Bohm came to this conclusion independently in the '70s.

Therefore, an injury in part of the brain can be healed, and a change in thought can change the overall pattern. Another part of the brain can even take over the function of damaged sections in some cases because the brain is is holographic -- each part reflecting the whole pattern.

Of course, once the physical body has been sufficiently damaged, then surgery can be a blessing, for saving a life continues the possibility of figuring out how to create with pure thought.

I agree Orchid... however... these conditions all come in tandem... first this... then that... first polio... then a vaccine... then bad vaccines... then a solution... then the solution is used in poor taste... then there is a solution to that...

I feel that the whole process is evolving toward what you are hoping for... which I believe is a time when people take full responsibility for their pain or suffering... or their anger or their joy... whatever... at some point there will be a large number of people learning or practising the art of self healing...

I actually started this thread because i saw Wolverine in XMEN2 heal in a rapid manner. I thought... that looks absolutely possible... perhaps in another 3 or 4hundred years... eh?
 
  • #56
Originally posted by iron~orchid
[BIt was also reported that he had double or more than the allowed dosage in his system when this happened. His CHOICE to take more of the product than was recommended and go out and stress his body in the hot sun. [/B]
Its an herbal remedy. The "allowed dosage" is meaningless because the products haven't been adequately tested. And "hot sun"? 75F? No.

Ephedra is unusual - most herbal remedies don't kill you. They just don't do anything at all. But I object because they a great many make fraudulent claims about what they do.

I agree Orchid...
Agree with what, quantum? Iron's post made no sense whatsoever.
 
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  • #57
Originally posted by russ_watters
Its an herbal remedy. The "allowed dosage" is meaningless because the products haven't been adequately tested. And "hot sun"? 75F? No.

Ephedra is unusual - most herbal remedies don't kill you. They just don't do anything at all. But I object because they a great many make fraudulent claims about what they do.

Agree with what, quantum? Iron's post made no sense whatsoever.

You may need to read it again.

consider this... the more we rely on automobiles to get us to the supermarket... the less our cardiovascular system gets a work out. The more we rely on the supermarket the less we learn to rely on ourselves and our gardening ability or our animal husbandery or our own trading skills. The more we rely on an MRI or Ultrasound indicator... the less we learn to listen or feel inside our bodies for dis=ease or dis-order... or imbalance.

There will always be a use for tools... for each individual... however... ultimately our body... including the mind... remains the most fundimental and foundational and most direct route toward healing what ails it.

If "herbal remedies", as you opinionate, "don't do anything"... then you will please explain why asprin... which is a simulation derivative of WILLOW BARK (a shamanic herbal remedy) is still a number one seller out of Bayer's. And you can go on and tell my why the YEW tree has provided the blueprint for simulated Tamoxifen, a major step in the right direction against breast cancer.

Next time you have a licorice candy and then feel the diertic effects and the adrenal boost from that root... tell me herbs have no effect on the endocrinal, cardiovascular and other systemic mechanisms of the body. Eh?
 
  • #58
Originally posted by quantumcarl
If "herbal remedies", as you opinionate, "don't do anything"... then you will please explain why asprin... which is a simulation derivative of WILLOW BARK (a shamanic herbal remedy) is still a number one seller out of Bayer's.
Asprin is not, legally speaking, an "herbal remedy." Herbal remedies have special legal status that exempts them from the FDA oversight other drugs get, which means that there are no requirements that they do anything at all or even be safe. So if you look closely at a lot of these products, you will find that no scientific studies of their effectiveness have ever been done, much less, studies up to the standards of the FDA. Things like homeopathic medicines for example are simply sugar pills or salt water - placebos. Every now and then you see an add for "oxygenated water" which is tap water that has been shaken. Then there are ones that contain actual herbs with no known medicinal value. You can sell parsely as an herbal remedy if you want to - and claim just about anything you want about it - there is nothing to stop you.

Medicines that contain no medicine are one side of the coin. The other side is medicines that contain real medicines that haven't been tested and have no federal quality/safety/effectiveness oversight. This is why the "allowed dosage" thing on ephedra made me laugh - since no real medical studies have been done on the use of ephedra, there is no such thing as an "allowed dosage." Thats why its so scary - you have no way of knowing if even the dosage printed on the label is safe - indeed, since it hasn't been adequately tested, there is a good chance that it is *NOT* safe. Ephedra *IS* a real drug - its a stimulant similar to but far more powerful than caffeine. There is no reason why it shouldn't be held up to the same standards as asprin.

Then I guess there is a 3rd side to this coin: drugs that contain the same drugs as products not regulated as drugs. This one is just too ironic: Cigarettes are not regulated as drugs by the FDA but clearly they are hazardous to your health and contain substances that are considered drugs. Products designed to help you quit smoking such as nicotine gum, patches, and smokeless cigarettes contain the same amount (or less) nicotine as in cigarettes, but they are regulated as drugs. Too ironic.
 
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  • #59
Originally posted by russ_watters
Asprin is not, legally speaking, an "herbal remedy." Herbal remedies have special legal status that exempts them from the FDA oversight other drugs get, which means that there are no requirements that they do anything at all or even be safe. So if you look closely at a lot of these products, you will find that no scientific studies of their effectiveness have ever been done, much less, studies up to the standards of the FDA. Things like homeopathic medicines for example are simply sugar pills or salt water - placebos. Every now and then you see an add for "oxygenated water" which is tap water that has been shaken. Then there are ones that contain actual herbs with no known medicinal value. You can sell parsely as an herbal remedy if you want to - and claim just about anything you want about it - there is nothing to stop you.

Medicines that contain no medicine are one side of the coin. The other side is medicines that contain real medicines that haven't been tested and have no federal quality/safety/effectiveness oversight. This is why the "allowed dosage" thing on ephedra made me laugh - since no real medical studies have been done on the use of ephedra, there is no such thing as an "allowed dosage." Thats why its so scary - you have no way of knowing if even the dosage printed on the label is safe - indeed, since it hasn't been adequately tested, there is a good chance that it is *NOT* safe. Ephedra *IS* a real drug - its a stimulant similar to but far more powerful than caffeine. There is no reason why it shouldn't be held up to the same standards as asprin.

Then I guess there is a 3rd side to this coin: drugs that contain the same drugs as products not regulated as drugs. This one is just too ironic: Cigarettes are not regulated as drugs by the FDA but clearly they are hazardous to your health and contain substances that are considered drugs. Products designed to help you quit smoking such as nicotine gum, patches, and smokeless cigarettes contain the same amount (or less) nicotine as in cigarettes, but they are regulated as drugs. Too ironic.

I get your drift.

I guess there's no trusting anyone or what they say. Especially when they've been taught that all that matters is making a buck... and if you screw over a granny in the process... big deal.

Makes for very bad karma. I feel sorry for the little, irresponsible schysters.
 
  • #60
I have been taking a product that has Ephedrine for over three years and my body tells me if the dosage I allow myself is incorrect or not. I have better health during this time period that my past history. I have had the regular "medical" check ups and bloodwork done and they have come out with a better than healthy results each time. One doctor said, after reading my the results of my blood tests, "you're so healthy, it's sickening."

This Ephedra product is not intended as a cure for a disease, so why is it on the board for discussion of healing ?

It is important to have an appreciation of what is to be healed. Broadly speaking, perhaps all healing is the same because all illness is the same. At the same time, it makes some difference whether the focus of the healing is on a broken leg or on a broken leg that won't heal. Are you addressing the cancer or the harmful effects of the chemotherapy ? Are you treating depression ? Accident proneness ? An increased incidence of illness ? Anger and grief ? Not all physical illness is necessarily the result of some underlying trauma, but most physical illness has emotional trauma associated with it, and the emotional trauma can on occasion drive physical illness. It is also apparent that both physical and emotional illness can be driven by spiritual disease.

A patient has to find a deep-seated commitment to his or her own healing as this is a huge piece of the process. Without that, many healings cannot occur. This is the first hurdle a patient must jump over on the road to recovery or prevention of illness.

It is also helpful to have some understanding of the mechanics of the illness or injury. Despite my own desire to believe one walks across water simply by virtue of one's own "can do" belief, we live in a cause-and-effect world, at least on some level, and healing has cause-and-effect attributes and consequences. So it is helpful to know that a cancer of this or that type has this or that origin, has this or that expected course, or this or that expected end result. And I believe it is also helpful to know how medicine would treat that particular illness or injury or disease.

It is important to have an appreciation of where a person is spiritually and emotionally if encouraging self-healing. The healing process is a great opportunity for patients to do spiritual inventory and take steps to promote their own understanding and faith, to examine some of the larger emotional based processes that drive their life, and understand the energetic consequences of those processes and what role they play in life. Those whoese lives tend to be based on fear or sex or possessions all ahve different outlooks on life, and all are driven by different intentions.

The format for healing is critical. What is the instrumentality that does the healing ? Healing can take all sorts of forms, and we have to be careful not to limit our understanding of healing to a traditional medicine-based or Western model.
 
  • #61
Originally posted by iron~orchid
I have been taking a product that has Ephedrine for over three years and my body tells me if the dosage I allow myself is incorrect or not. I have better health during this time period that my past history. I have had the regular "medical" check ups and bloodwork done and they have come out with a better than healthy results each time. One doctor said, after reading my the results of my blood tests, "you're so healthy, it's sickening."

This Ephedra product is not intended as a cure for a disease, so why is it on the board for discussion of healing ?

It is important to have an appreciation of what is to be healed. Broadly speaking, perhaps all healing is the same because all illness is the same. At the same time, it makes some difference whether the focus of the healing is on a broken leg or on a broken leg that won't heal. Are you addressing the cancer or the harmful effects of the chemotherapy ? Are you treating depression ? Accident proneness ? An increased incidence of illness ? Anger and grief ? Not all physical illness is necessarily the result of some underlying trauma, but most physical illness has emotional trauma associated with it, and the emotional trauma can on occasion drive physical illness. It is also apparent that both physical and emotional illness can be driven by spiritual disease.

A patient has to find a deep-seated commitment to his or her own healing as this is a huge piece of the process. Without that, many healings cannot occur. This is the first hurdle a patient must jump over on the road to recovery or prevention of illness.

It is also helpful to have some understanding of the mechanics of the illness or injury. Despite my own desire to believe one walks across water simply by virtue of one's own "can do" belief, we live in a cause-and-effect world, at least on some level, and healing has cause-and-effect attributes and consequences. So it is helpful to know that a cancer of this or that type has this or that origin, has this or that expected course, or this or that expected end result. And I believe it is also helpful to know how medicine would treat that particular illness or injury or disease.

It is important to have an appreciation of where a person is spiritually and emotionally if encouraging self-healing. The healing process is a great opportunity for patients to do spiritual inventory and take steps to promote their own understanding and faith, to examine some of the larger emotional based processes that drive their life, and understand the energetic consequences of those processes and what role they play in life. Those whoese lives tend to be based on fear or sex or possessions all ahve different outlooks on life, and all are driven by different intentions.

The format for healing is critical. What is the instrumentality that does the healing ? Healing can take all sorts of forms, and we have to be careful not to limit our understanding of healing to a traditional medicine-based or Western model.

Yes, Iron Orchid... that's how I see it. If one is in touch with one's bodily process one will understand how much of anything it needs to stay fit or return to a good level of fitness.

Its when the patient thinks they have no clue as to the requirements of their body that they will fall prone to overdoses or singular opinions of a certain professional group or interest.

Like we have surmised, so far, we as humans have always had an innate understanding of what to do when our body is injured or in distress. Like an animal we have the ability to take the path of least resistance toward the balance required to continue our life... or to discontiue it... accordingly. Thanks !-)
 
  • #62
Rsds

Hi I read some messages in this thread, and I wanted to ask a question: what could be the psychological/physics-al/methaphysical cause of Rsds know also as Sudek's atrophy?
Thanks to everyone, any input appreciated, as I'm fighting it
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