How Can We Derive the Relativistic Rocket Equation?

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The discussion revolves around deriving the relativistic rocket equation, which is an extension of the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation for scenarios involving relativistic speeds. Participants explore various approaches to derive this equation, focusing on the implications of relativistic physics on spacecraft propulsion.

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  • One participant introduces the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation and expresses a desire to derive its relativistic form, noting that existing resources provide the equation without demonstration.
  • Another participant suggests a method involving momentum and energy conservation, indicating that mass is not conserved during the rocket's operation and introduces a differential equation related to momentum and energy changes.
  • A different approach is proposed using rapidity instead of normalized velocity, with a participant explaining how rapidities add in special relativity and how this can lead to a solution for the rocket's velocity as a function of mass ratio.
  • Another participant elaborates on deriving the equation from first principles, presenting a series of integrals and transformations that relate rapidity and mass changes, while also discussing the implications of the limits of velocity.

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Participants present multiple competing views and methods for deriving the relativistic rocket equation, with no consensus reached on a single approach or solution. Each method introduces different mathematical considerations and assumptions.

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Some participants express uncertainty about potential errors in their derivations, particularly regarding factors involving the speed of light and the use of geometric units. The discussion also highlights the complexity of integrating relativistic effects into the rocket equation.

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I am studying through online resources some principles of spacecraft propulsion, since it really fascinates me, and makes me want to know a bit more about it :)
For rockets, thruster, I found the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation:
$$\Delta v=v_e ln(\frac{m_0}{m_f})$$

Of course, rockets can travel up to relativistic speeds, thus a relativistic implementation of the RE must be taken into account for a higher degree of accuracy in calculations.
All implementations I found, rely on this equation which gives the mass ratio in terms of ##\Delta v## and exhaust speed ##v_e##... but I couldn't manage to derive it, since in all papers it is given without demonstration:
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Could you please give me a hint on how to get to this identity?
 
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I think you can do it like this. Let ##v## be the velocity of the rocket measured in the initial rest frame of the rocket. At some time ##t##, the rocket has momentum ##p## and energy ##E##. At some later time, after ejecting some amount of mass ##dk##, the rocket has mass ##m+dm##, momentum ##p + dp## and energy ##E + dE##. Note that, unlike energy and momentum, mass is not conserved in this process i.e. ##dm \neq - dk##.

If the speed of the ejected mass ##dk## with respect to the spaceship is ##u##, then its velocity in the initial rest frame is ##\tilde{v}= \dfrac{v-u}{1-uv}##. The ejected mass possesses energy ##-dE## and momentum ##-dp##. The change in momentum of the rocket is ##dp = d(\gamma m v) = \dfrac{-\tilde{v} dk}{\sqrt{1-\tilde{v}^2}}## and the change in energy of the rocket is ##dE = d(\gamma m) = \dfrac{-dk}{\sqrt{1-\tilde{v}^2}}##. Write\begin{align*}
d(\gamma mv) &= \tilde{v} d(\gamma m) = \dfrac{v-u}{1-uv} d(\gamma m) \\
\implies \frac{d(\gamma mv) }{dv} &= \dfrac{v-u}{1-uv} \dfrac{d(\gamma m)}{dv}
\end{align*}Can you solve this differential equation?
 
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I think all one has to do is replace normalized velocity ##\beta = v/c## with rapidity, w.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapidity

Rapidities add in SR, while velocities don't. So, v = at becomes w = a##\tau##.

So, for the non-relativistic case we can say
$$m \frac{dv}{dt} = -v_e \frac{dm}{dt} $$
which reduces to
$$dv = v_e \frac{dm}{m}$$
which gives the solution
$$v =v_e ln \frac{m_i}{m_f}$$

Replacing v by the rapidity w gives:
$$dw = \frac{v_e}{c} \frac{dm}{m}$$
and
$$w = \frac{v_e}{c} ln \frac{m_i}{m_f}$$

where
$$w = \frac{1}{2} ln \frac{1+v/c } {1-v/c }$$
and in the limit when v is small, ##w \approx v/c##.

This can be solved to get v as a function of the mass ratio rather than w as a faction of the mass ratio.

Hopefully I didn't make any silly errors, but I won't guarantee it. I wouldn['t be too surprised if I made some error with a factor of c, I usually use geometric units where c=1.
 
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It is not so hard from first principles, though. From #2, write\begin{align*}
v \frac{d(\gamma m)}{dv} + \gamma m &= \frac{v-u}{1-uv} \frac{d(\gamma m)}{dv} \\

\gamma m &= \left(\frac{v-u}{1-uv} - v \right) \frac{d(\gamma m)}{dv} \\

\gamma m &= \left(\frac{u(v^2-1)}{1-uv} \right) \frac{d(\gamma m)}{dv} \\ \\

\int_{v_1}^{v_2} dv \frac{(1-uv)}{u(v^2-1)} &= \int_{\gamma_1 m_1}^{\gamma_2 m_2} \frac{d(\gamma m)}{\gamma m} \\

\frac{-1}{u} \int_{v_1}^{v_2} dv \frac{1}{1-v^2} - \int_{v_1}^{v_2} dv \frac{v}{v^2-1} &= \int_{\gamma_1 m_1}^{\gamma_2 m_2} \frac{d(\gamma m)}{\gamma m} \\ \\

\frac{-1}{u} \left[ \mathrm{artanh}(v) \right]_{v_1}^{v_2} - \frac{1}{2} \ln{ \left| \frac{v_2^2-1}{v_1^2-1} \right|} &= \ln \left( \frac{\gamma_2 m_2}{\gamma_1 m_1} \right)

\end{align*}Because ##v_1, v_2 < 1##, ##\frac{1}{2} \ln{ \left| \dfrac{v_2^2-1}{v_1^2-1} \right|} = \dfrac{1}{2} \ln{\left( \dfrac{1-v_2^2}{1-v_1^2} \right)} = \ln{\left( \frac{\sqrt{1-v_2^2}}{\sqrt{1-v_1^2}} \right)} = \ln{ \left( \dfrac{\gamma_1}{\gamma_2}\right)} ##. So\begin{align*}

\frac{-1}{u} \left[ \mathrm{artanh}(v_2) - \mathrm{artanh}(v_1) \right] &= \ln \left(\frac{m_2}{m_1} \right) \\

\implies \mathrm{artanh}(v_2) - \mathrm{artanh}(v_1) &= u \ln \left(\frac{m_1}{m_2} \right) \\

w_2 - w_1 &= u \ln \left(\frac{m_1}{m_2} \right)

\end{align*}##w## is the rapidity
 
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