How Can We Know if Chemicals React?

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This discussion centers on the solubility of caffeine and tannin in various solvents, specifically water and chloroform. It establishes that while structural analysis can provide predictions about solubility based on polarity, experimentation remains the definitive method to confirm these predictions. The conversation highlights that caffeine is soluble in water and that tannin does not dissolve in chloroform due to its reaction with carbonate to form an insoluble salt. Additionally, it is noted that heating increases the solubility of substances like caffeine in water.

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Is there any other way (besides experimentation) to know what chemicals react with other chemicals? Take this http://oxygen.chem.uidaho.edu/dschem276/Laboratory Experiments/Caffeine extraction from Coffee.pdf" for example, is there any other way to know that caffeine is soluble in water? And that tannin is NOT soluble in chloroform, but caffeine is?

Why would you have to heat the solution with the caffeine and the tannin in it in order for the caffeine to become soluble?
 
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Stratosphere said:
Is there any other way (besides experimentation) to know what chemicals react with other chemicals?

Yes. No.

Usually looking at the substance structure we can predict whether we should expect to dissolve in polar or non polar solvents, but reality has its own ways and sometimes our predictions are wrong. Experiment is the only 100% sure way of getting the answer.

Take this http://oxygen.chem.uidaho.edu/dschem276/Laboratory Experiments/Caffeine extraction from Coffee.pdf" for example, is there any other way to know that caffeine is soluble in water? And that tannin is NOT soluble in chloroform, but caffeine is?

It doesn't state tannin is not soluble in chloroform. It states that tannin reacts with carbonate to create a salt which is insoluble. That's nothing unusual - in general ionic salts are weakly soluble in non polar solvents, that's one of rules of thumb used to predict solubility.

Why would you have to heat the solution with the caffeine and the tannin in it in order for the caffeine to become soluble?

Solubility of most substances goes up with the temperature, counter examples do exist, but they are rare. It doesn't mean caffeine is insoluble in cold water - just its solubility is lover and dissolution is slow.

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