How can we parametrize a surface with an angle and radius?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on parametrizing a surface defined by the equation x_1^2 + x_2^2 - x_3^2 = 1. Participants explore methods to determine lines on this surface using angles and radii, considering the implications of symmetry and phase differences in their parametrization.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Marin proposes a method to define the surface by determining a line parametrized by an angle and radius, suggesting that the surface can be generated by rotating this line around the x_3-axis.
  • Marin expresses a claim that the phase difference between angles will be constant for every line but seeks proof or validation of this intuition.
  • Tiny-tim suggests finding lines that pass through the point (1,0,0) as a hint to explore the problem further.
  • In a later reply, Tiny-tim encourages Marin to calculate where the line through (1,0,0) intersects the planes defined by z = ±a constant to address the claim about phase differences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of Marin's claim regarding the phase difference between angles, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding this specific aspect.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the symmetry of the surface and the nature of the lines being considered, which may affect the conclusions drawn about phase differences.

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Hi there!

I´ve come upon the following problem: I want to determine the set of all lines of the following surface:

[tex]x_1^2+x_2^2-x_3^2=1[/tex]

Here´s my idea: if one could determine one line parametrised by an angle and a radius, one could define the whole surface as rotation of this line over the x_3-axis. One can write every point of the surface as [tex]rcos\phi,rsin\phi,\sqrt{r^2-1}[/tex] where r is supposed to be the vector of any circle, got by a slice, parallel to the x_1x_2-plane

We then go to the otherside of the x_1x_2-plane, to get (by symmetry) onother circle with radius of the same length. If we define another point on it, it will be of the form [tex]rcos\psi,rsin\psi,-\sqrt{r^2-1}[/tex].

I claim (by intuition) that the phase difference between the angles will be constant for every line, but I cannot prove it :(

Can someone please help me, or give me a hint?

Thanks a lot in advance, Marin
 
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Marin said:
I´ve come upon the following problem: I want to determine the set of all lines of the following surface:

[tex]x_1^2+x_2^2-x_3^2=1[/tex]

Hi Marin! :smile:

Hint: find the lines that go through (1,0,0). :wink:
 
thanks, tiny-tim, it works :) But what about my claim "the phase difference between the angles will be constant for every line" ? How can I find out if it is right?
 
Marin said:
thanks, tiny-tim, it works :) But what about my claim "the phase difference between the angles will be constant for every line" ? How can I find out if it is right?

Hi Marin! :smile:

I honestly can't see the difficulty …

just calculate where the line through (1,0,0) meets the two planes z = ±a constant. :wink:
 

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