How Can You Determine the Radius of Curvature Without Knowing R?

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The discussion focuses on determining the radius of curvature (R) of hyperbolic and spherical surfaces when R is unknown. It establishes that R can be calculated using the formula R=1/√|K|, where K represents the Gaussian curvature, derived from the determinants of the first and second fundamental forms of the surface. Additionally, the Gauss-Bonnet formula is highlighted as a crucial tool for deriving area formulas for geodesic triangles on these surfaces.

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Given a triangle on a hyperbolic surface with all angles and edge length known the area is given by R^2 x(PI - a - b - c), where a, b and c are the angles and R is the radius of curvature of the surface. What if you don't know R?

Same question for a triangle on a spherical surface where R is unknown.

Equivalent question: How do you measure R using LOCAL length and angle measurements? Assume that you know only that the surface has a constant curvature.

Thanks, Skippy
 
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How do you measure R

If I understand your question, you can find R=1/\sqrt{|K|} by means of the Gaussian curvature K={\rm det}(II)/{\rm det}(I), I and II being the first and second fundamental forms of the surface.

However, you can always invoke the Gauss-Bonnet formula:

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Gauss-BonnetFormula.html


Especially if you restrict your study to geodesic triangles, you can derive the formulas for their areas.
 

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