How Can You Identify Perovskite in Solar Cells Without Advanced Lab Techniques?

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The discussion revolves around identifying perovskite materials used in solar cells without employing advanced laboratory techniques. Participants explore various methods and considerations related to the verification of perovskite structures, particularly in the context of their efficiency in power conversion.

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  • Some participants describe perovskite as a new field of research due to its high efficiency in solar cells and question how to verify its presence without complex lab techniques like AFM, NMR, ESR, EPR, or XRD.
  • One participant notes that perovskite refers to any material with the ABX3 crystal structure, originally discovered as a mineral consisting of calcium titanium oxide (CaTiO3).
  • Another participant suggests examining the material under a petrographic microscope as a low-tech method, and mentions using XRF for chemical identification or powder X-ray diffraction for structural confirmation.
  • A participant speculates that the original poster (OP) may be referring to oxide materials with a perovskite structure rather than the mineral itself, and highlights the historical significance of perovskites in high-temperature superconductors.
  • Concerns are raised about the complexity and cost of verifying perovskite structures, with one participant expressing doubt about the existence of inexpensive methods for structural verification.

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Participants express differing views on the methods available for identifying perovskite materials, with no consensus on a definitive low-cost technique. There is also ambiguity regarding whether the discussion pertains to the mineral or the broader class of perovskite materials.

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Some limitations include the dependence on specific definitions of perovskite, the complexity of the methods discussed, and the unresolved nature of the verification techniques proposed.

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perovskite is a new field of research due to it's high efficiency, but how you verify a given material is perovskite without doing complex lab experiment like AFM,NMR,ESR,EPR, XRD
perovskite is a new field of research due to it's high efficiency in power conversion in solar cell, but how you verify a given material is perovskite without doing complex lab experiment like AFM,NMR,ESR,EPR, XRD. It has a structure of ABX_3. where A,B are cation, X is anion. B are placed in corner of cubic crystal and X are placed in octahedral position of B and A are present in the cavity of crystal. One can google more for knowing property and structure
 
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Ananya2018 said:
Summary: perovskite is a new field of research due to it's high efficiency, but how you verify a given material is perovskite without doing complex lab experiment like AFM,NMR,ESR,EPR, XRD

perovskite is a new field of research
Thought it was a mineral.
 
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Ananya2018 said:
... but how you verify a given material is perovskite without doing complex lab experiment ...
The lowest tech method would be to examine the material under a petrographic microscope.
Consider also XRF to identify the chemistry, or powder x-ray diffraction to confirm the structure.
 
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Ananya2018 said:
Summary: perovskite is a new field of research due to it's high efficiency, but how you verify a given material is perovskite without doing complex lab experiment like AFM,NMR,ESR,EPR, XRD

perovskite is a new field of research due to it's high efficiency in power conversion in solar cell, but how you verify a given material is perovskite without doing complex lab experiment like AFM,NMR,ESR,EPR, XRD. It has a structure of ABX_3. where A,B are cation, X is anion. B are placed in corner of cubic crystal and X are placed in octahedral position of B and A are present in the cavity of crystal. One can google more for knowing property and structure
Can you say more about why you are asking this question? Are you mining it and want to be sure of the purity so you can set your selling price? Or are you buying it for some purpose and similarly want to determine the purity to be sure you are comfortable with the selling price?
 
I suspect the OP is referring the group of oxide material with a perovskite structure, rather than the actual mineral.
Perovskites were a hot topic for research back in the day since most high temperature superconductors have a perovskite structure (most famously YBCO).
In recent years solar cells made from perovskite have turned out to be very efficient, meaning this class of material is now back in the limelight,. I suspect it is the latter the OP has been reading about.
Also, mostly this refers to perovskite thin-films; not bulk materials.

The standard method for checking the structure of a perovskite film (as used for e.g. PVs) would be XRD; all other methods that I know of are more complicated (e.g. TEM). I seriously doubt there is a cheap way to check the structure,
 
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