How did you learn the greek alphabet?

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The discussion centers on the challenges faced by undergraduate math and physics majors in learning the Greek alphabet, which is frequently used in higher mathematics. Participants share their experiences, noting that the Greek alphabet is often not explicitly taught in earlier education, leading to confusion during classes. Many suggest learning the letters through practical application rather than rote memorization, emphasizing the importance of recognizing letters as they encounter them in mathematical contexts. Resources such as Wesleyan's Greek writing guide and free downloadable lessons are recommended for effective learning.

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  • #31
The first time I encountered xi was in a differential equations lecture. At first I just stared at it confused, I was going to ask what that weird character was but didn't for fear of looking silly (I was the only freshman in the class), so I finally collected myself and made some attempts to write it down. I erased and rewrote it about five times and then tried to focus back on the lecture. I noticed that several more xis had a appeared so again it took several attempts to write all of them down. By then I was trailing far behind in the proof of the theorem, so I decided to transcribe the xis on the board as English "z"s in my notes. This worked for a while until the professor introduced z as something else. So then I went back to writing the xis...

At the end of the class, the proof became an incomprehensible entanglement of xis and zs in my notes and in my head.
 
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  • #32
Seriously, its not chinese...
 
  • #33
cristo said:
I've never heard of anyone using upsilon, for example.

How many particle physicists do you know? :smile:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/particles/hadron.html#c4

As for how I learned the Greek alphabet, I did it piecemeal as I encountered the letters. The textbook for the general-physics type course I was teaching this past semester has a table of the Greek alphabet, along with tables of physical constants, unit conversion factors etc. I'm sure my original textbooks must have had them, too.

Don't ask me to recite the Greek alphabet in order, though. Alpha, beta, gamma, delta, ...er, epsilon, um :rolleyes:... (sneak a peek) zeta? :bugeye: :confused:
 
  • #34
jtbell said:
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Don't ask me to recite the Greek alphabet in order, though. Alpha, beta, gamma, delta, ...er, epsilon, um :rolleyes:... (sneak a peek) zeta? :bugeye: :confused:

:smile: Yeah, there's a natural tendency to want to put zeta at the end. It's the only time going to church helped me, because I remember the quote "From alpha to omega, the beginning to the end..." from funeral masses, so remember omega is the last letter, not zeta.

A good friend of mine has his PhD in math...his dissertation exhausted the English and Greek alphabets and started delving into the Cyrillic and Arabic alphabets to have enough characters to use. :bugeye:
 
  • #35
jtbell said:

I was in grad school when the upsilon was discovered in 1977, so I remember some of the excitement surrounding it. That experiment at Fermilab under Leon Lederman had announced the previous year that they had discovered a new particle at a lower energy, which they called the "upsilon." A few months later it turned out not to exist after all, but was an artifact created by their data analysis procedure, so people re-dubbed it the "oops-Leon." :biggrin:

And then Leon came back the following year with the "real" upsilon.
 
  • #36
I took a Latin for Sciences course, though I've seen plenty of greeks before that. Mostly in physics and math.
 
  • #37
Moonbear said:
I just LOVE writing zeta and xi. The squiggles are fun. :biggrin:

I think zeta is boring … it needs a little loopy-thing in the middle to give it some personality. :frown:

But xi is great. I think it should just go on and on until you run out of room. :biggrin:
I also had a great deal of fun listening to my p-chem prof saying d\xi. I wish I was in Dixie, hurrah, hurrah. :biggrin:

Do you pronounce it ksee, then?

I was taught to say "ksigh". :confused:
(here's some blue-xi thinking … ξ:rolleyes: )​
 
  • #38
tiny-tim said:
Do you pronounce it ksee, then? I was taught to say "ksigh".
I managed to get a masters in math without ever learning the Greek alphabet and to this day I don't know the names of all the letters. I just do pattern matching. Until your post, it never occurred to me to think about how to pronounce this one. I can't even draw it, so I have created my own substitute shorthand version.
 
  • #39
If you say "pie," then you say "ksigh." As well as "ch-high," "fie" and "psigh."

Otherwise it's "pee" "ksee" "ch-ee" "fee" and "psee." I think either is "correct enough," but one should remain consistent.

I am Ch-high Meson, and I approve this message.
 
  • #40
how did you learn the "Greek" alphabet?

In physics, its pronounced the "Geek" alphabet
 
  • #41
rewebster said:
how did you learn the "Greek" alphabet?

In physics, its pronounced the "Geek" alphabet

χ χ χ

("hee hee hee!")
 

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