How do animals have better immune systems than humans?

In summary: This could be a sign of a respiratory infection, which would be a sign that the dog's immune system is not functioning properly.
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Animals get wet in the rain and still don't fall sick, how is that?. Let's take a stray dog. I have noticed that a dogs nose keeps running and he has to breathe though the mouth. So his immune system has some flaws. Can a human being become so immune just like animals? Tarzan had good imunity. So can we develop immunity similar to an animal?
 
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Tarzan had good imunity.
You do realize that Tarzan was/is a fictional character and has zero relationship to your question?
 
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Some diseases are species specific.
Influenza, which may be to what you are referring, is one example.
http://www.who.int/zoonoses/diseases/animal_influenza/en/

Dog influenza is more specific to only them, and not to humans.

What makes you think that animals do not suffer when ill?
Is it because they cannot speak to say how "down in the dumps" they feel?
 
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The basic premise of your question is wrong. You seem to be focused on mammals.

Mammals do in fact get all sorts of diseases: parasitic diseases, microbial infections, environmentally induced diseases. That is why people who raise animals for various reasons require the services of veterinarians to keep their animals as healthy as possible. Animal Husbandry is very focused on health issues related to genetic diseases - e.g., hip dysplasia is some dog breeds.
 
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As an aside, animal diseases transferring to humans has profoundly shaped human history. The animals can act as disease vectors as the the 14th-17th century bubonic plagues in Europe. Or the disease can transfer and become endemic: dairy cattle -> smallpox, pigs->cholera. Western animal derived diseases when first introduced into North America decimated major civilizations there - See the mound builders (Adena people) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mound_Builders

Overall see:
'Rats, Lice, and History' Hans Zinsser
'Guns, Germs, and Steel' Jared Diamond
 
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avito009 said:
Animals get wet in the rain and still don't fall sick, how is that?. Let's take a stray dog. I have noticed that a dogs nose keeps running and he has to breathe though the mouth. So his immune system has some flaws. Can a human being become so immune just like animals? Tarzan had good imunity. So can we develop immunity similar to an animal?

Why do you think animals have better immunity? Can they tell you when they have the sniffles or ask you to drive them to the vet for every ache they get?
 
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I think I know what the OP is getting at, but I am just talking about pets... I had one cat for 19 years, and have had dogs all my life. They very rarely get "sick" the way we get sick (coughing, diarrhea, vomiting, fever, etc). Whenever they do, it seems to be because they "got into something" they shouldn't have. I think there are a few main reasons for this... 1) Lack of exposure to "the outside world" reduces the opportunity to "catch" something. People are "out in the world" touching objects that hundreds of people have touched in just the past 24 hours. We are within a few feet of ten or twenty people per day, maybe even 100-200 people if you work in a retail/hospitality industry or take mass transit daily. 2) Diet. Most pets eat the same food every day. They eat processed food that was prepared under controlled conditions and not handled by people, rather than prepared in small kitchens at restaurants and handled by multiple people, and they don't eat raw fruits and vegetables from fields like we do. 3) We also "let them die" more often, possibly causing evolution to "work better" than it has in humans, since (in the developed world) we save people at virtually any cost, people with weak immune systems are able to grow up and reproduce... Pets definitely get things like cancer though, quite frequently I think...

I am by no means an expert in this field, I'm just throwing a few ideas out there - feel free to shoot it down! :)
 
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avito009 said:
Animals get wet in the rain and still don't fall sick, how is that?

I was outside in the rain the other day and I am not sick. The fact that most animals you see in the rain do not end up sick is simply a sign that rain in and of itself does not cause sickness. That requires the presence of a pathogen and a failure of the animal's numerous defense mechanisms. Animals are most prone to suffering from disease when they are very young, very old, injured, or malnourished, all situations in which their immune systems and other defenses either haven't yet developed fully or have been degraded. Healthy adults, which form the overwhelming majority of animals you ever see, are the least likely to get sick.

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I have noticed that a dogs nose keeps running and he has to breathe though the mouth. So his immune system has some flaws.

I wouldn't call the fact that a dog occasionally gets sick a flaw with their immune system. More like an inevitability.

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Can a human being become so immune just like animals?

No, because animals are not immune to disease. Essentially all organisms are susceptible to hundreds if not thousands of possible diseases. Some, like rabies, are well known to humans, but most have not been documented (not surprising given that we haven't even come close to finishing documenting our own diseases yet). In fact, a not-so-insignificant portion of human diseases can also afflict animals, especially those closely related to us like primates and other mammals.
 
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I wouldn't call the fact that a dog occasionally gets sick a flaw with their immune system. More like an inevitability.

On further reading: I found that a dog can have a runny nose because it has sweat glands in the nose. It opens its mouth to keep his body temperature low. It helps it cool its body. But yes a dog can have a cold but that's not the reason for it to pant. As dogs grow older their immunity decreases.
 
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But yes a dog can have a cold but that's not the reason for it to pant. As dogs grow older their immunity decreases.

Dogs of all ages get diseases. It's just less common in younger, healthy dogs.
 
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I've occasionally wondered if say, an ant, can get a headache... or a honey bee perhaps feel a bit off-colour and take a day off, staying in the hive. I'm not being frivolous here... it's a serious thought I sometimes have.
 
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avito009 said:
On further reading: I found that a dog can have a runny nose because it has sweat glands in the nose. It opens its mouth to keep his body temperature low. It helps it cool its body. But yes a dog can have a cold but that's not the reason for it to pant. As dogs grow older their immunity decreases.
Fun fact: The wet nose of dogs (and some other mammals that track smells) is called a rhinarium. It is wet to detect the direction of air currents (like when someone licks their finger and holds it up to figure out wind directions) and help figure out the direction a smell might be coming from. In addition to sweat and mucus glands, dogs will also lick their nose to maintain moisture for this purpose.
 
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Its worth remembering that our immune responses are very costly to us in all sorts of ways and its activation involves huge energy expenditure and can be extremely destructive to our own body. The evolutionary history of everything alive has involved a great deal of risk management. Animals living in high risk environments will by necessity have to expend more of their resources on survival. Dogs might be a good example as their metabolic rate is set much higher than ours, which comes at the cost of shorter lifespan. There are also many animals that rely much more heavily on innate immune responses which are highly effective when they work but lack any adaptability.
Its not really a matter of what's better or worse its what serves the needs of that particular species best.
 
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Four year old thread, and the OP already left us :woot:

Anyway. Let's take that stray dog. What it has is not a better immune system, but an immune system which is running at a stressed 150% through all the expected 3-6 years lifetime of that dog.

Stressed overwork is not 'better'. It might provide acceptable results in short term against all odds, but it is usually deadly at long term.
Yep, stray dogs has short lifetime in average. They are right to go for the short term.

Can we do that? Well, some must. Some countries still has 40-50 years (or less) life expectancy at birth (in matching circumstances), but most has more. Not really a preferred option of choice.
 

1. How do animals have better immune systems than humans?

Animals have evolved to have stronger immune systems due to their constant exposure to various pathogens and diseases in their natural habitats. This constant exposure has led to the development of robust and efficient immune responses that allow animals to fight off infections and diseases more effectively than humans.

2. What specific adaptations do animals have in their immune systems?

Animals have various adaptations in their immune systems that help them fight off infections. These include a larger variety of immune cells, the ability to produce a wider range of antibodies, and the ability to activate their immune response more quickly when exposed to a pathogen.

3. Can animals transfer their strong immune systems to humans?

No, animals cannot transfer their strong immune systems to humans. Each species has its own unique immune system that is adapted to its specific environment and genetics. While humans can learn from animal immune systems and use them to develop treatments and vaccines, we cannot directly transfer their immune systems to our own.

4. Why do humans have weaker immune systems compared to animals?

Humans have weaker immune systems compared to animals because we have evolved in a relatively sterile environment. Our modern lifestyles, including increased sanitation and the use of antibiotics, have reduced our exposure to pathogens and weakened our immune systems over time.

5. Are there any cases where humans have stronger immune systems than animals?

Yes, humans do have certain advantages in our immune systems. For example, we have a larger brain and more complex social structures, which allow us to create and implement strategies for preventing and treating diseases. Additionally, humans have developed advanced medical technologies and treatments that can help boost our immune systems when needed.

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