How Do Atoms Generate Flames in Combustion?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the mechanisms by which atoms generate flames during combustion, exploring the nature of flames, the role of chemical reactions, and the properties of gases involved in this process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the idea that flames are made of very hot photons, suggesting a misunderstanding of the concept.
  • Another participant clarifies that a flame is a cloud of very hot gas composed of atoms and molecules, with heat generated from chemical reactions during combustion.
  • A participant emphasizes that fire typically involves an oxidation process where a fuel reacts with oxygen, releasing heat and producing hot reaction products.
  • Repeated requests for further explanation on how atoms specifically produce fire or flame indicate a desire for deeper understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the basic concept that flames are related to chemical reactions and the behavior of gases, but there is no consensus on the initial claim regarding photons and the specifics of how atoms generate flames.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on assumptions about the nature of combustion and the definitions of terms like "flame" and "fire," which may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion does not resolve the complexities of atomic interactions in combustion.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring the chemistry of combustion, students seeking clarification on the nature of flames, or those curious about the physical processes involved in fire generation.

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..l am not talking about the color of flame... another thing some body says to me...that the flame is made form very hot photons. ..we know exciting atoms produce light ultraviolet gamma and infrared. ...but how atom produce flame...like an example a flammable gas.
 
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Whoever told you that a flame is made of very hot photons... Either they don't know what they're talking about and you should stop listening to them or you misunderstood what they were saying.

A flame is a cloud of very hot gas, so hot that it glows. Like any gas, it's made of atoms and molecules bouncing around. The heat comes from the chemical reactions involved in the combustion process.
 
can you explain. how does atom produce fire or flame more specifically. ...
 
What Nugatory said. Fire is usually an oxidation process eg a fuel is reacted with oxygen in the air. The chemical reaction releases heat which makes the products of the reaction hot.
 
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