How Do Centralizers and Generators Organize Group Elements?

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This discussion focuses on the concepts of centralizers and generators within group theory, specifically using the symmetric group S3 as an example. The centralizer of a subgroup S in a group G, denoted Z(S), consists of elements in G that commute with every element of S. It is established that the centralizer does not need to be abelian, as demonstrated with S3, where Z(S3) is the identity. Additionally, the relationship between the size of the centralizer and the abelian nature of the subgroup is explored, highlighting that smaller subgroups yield larger centralizers.

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I'm having trouble grasping the concept of centralizers and generators. Is there any way to visualize these groups?

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For example, the centralizer of S in G (S is a subgp of G) is given by
Z(S) ={g ε G : gh = hg for all h ε G}

Does that just mean it is like the biggest abelian subgroup of G?
I'm pretty unclear on the concept of generator, and the notation use.
 
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Locoism said:
I'm having trouble grasping the concept of centralizers and generators. Is there any way to visualize these groups?

Edit:
For example, the centralizer of S in G (S is a subgp of G) is given by
Z(S) ={g ε G : gh = hg for all h ε G}

Does that just mean it is like the biggest abelian subgroup of G?
I'm pretty unclear on the concept of generator, and the notation use.

the center of a group is the subgroup that commutes with every element of the group. The centralizer of a subgroup is the group that commutes with every element of the subgroup.


the centralizer does not need to be abelian. For instance the centralizer of the center is the entire group.
 
let's pick a group, and see what we get for some different test values.

we'll pick S3, it's small, and non-abelian, so maybe we'll learn something.

now (1 2)(1 3) = (1 3 2), while (1 3)(1 2) = (1 2 3), so neither (1 2) or (1 3)

can be in the center of S3.

(1 2)(1 2 3) = (2 3), while (1 2 3)(1 2) = (1 3), so (1 2 3) isn't in the center.

(1 2)(1 3 2) = (1 3), (1 3 2)(1 2) = ( 2 3), so (1 3 2) isn't in the center.

(1 2)(2 3) = (1 2 3), (2 3)(1 2) = (1 3 2), so (2 3) isn't in the center.

so Z(S3) is just the identity (S3 is VERY non-abelian, hardly anything commutes).

let's see what happens if we try to centralize a smaller set.

let's choose H = {1, (1 2 3), (1 3 2)}.

straight-away we see that (1 2), (1, 3) and (2, 3) aren't in Z(H), from our investigations into the center.

but (1 2 3)^-1 = (1 3 2), and everything commutes with its inverse, so

Z(H) = H.

note that if we pick S = {1}, everything commutes with the identity, so Z({1}) = S3.

notice that the smaller S gets, the bigger Z(S) got. Z(S) is sort of a way of telling:

"how abelian is S compared to the rest of G".

the identity subgroup is VERY abelian, so it makes sense that Z({1}) is big. S3 is not very abelian, so it makes sense Z(S3) is small. {1,(1 2 3),(1 3 2)} is sort of "in the middle", everything in it commutes with itself (because it's an abelian subgroup), but it doesn't commute with anything outside of it.

if a subgroup H is abelian, Z(H) will contain all of H, and maybe more.

if a subgroup H is not abelian, Z(H) won't contain all of H.

if the main group G is abelian, of course, Z(H) = G for every subgroup H.

the center of G, Z(G) will always be an abelian group (since everything in it commutes with everything, including its own elements), but it isn't necessarily the largest abelian subgroup of G. for example, in the group D4 =

{1,r,r^2,r^3,s,rs,r^2s,r^3s}, the center is {1,r^2}, but the subgroup {1,r,r^2,r^3} is abelian and is clearly larger.
 
Thank you Deveno that was really helpful. Man this stuff is abstract...
 
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