How do I apply the distributive law to ∑(k xi + j yi)?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the distributive law to the summation expression ∑(k xi + j yi). Participants explore how to split and manipulate this expression, considering both theoretical and practical examples.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to apply the distributive law to the expression ∑(k xi + j yi).
  • Another participant provides a breakdown of the expression, showing that ∑(k xi + j yi) can be expressed as ∑(k xi) + ∑(j yi) and further as k ∑(xi) + j ∑(yi), while noting the importance of convergence for infinite sums.
  • A later reply emphasizes that both forms of the expression yield the same result under certain conditions, using specific numerical examples to illustrate this point.
  • There is a clarification that the distributive law was not initially applied in the first step of the breakdown, prompting further discussion on the correct application.
  • Participants agree that both expressions lead to the same numerical outcome in the provided example, but the discussion remains focused on the application of the distributive law itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the validity of the mathematical manipulations presented, but there is some confusion regarding the initial application of the distributive law. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the clarity of the explanation provided.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need to consider convergence when dealing with infinite sums, indicating that assumptions about the nature of the terms (e.g., positivity) may affect the application of the distributive law.

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If I have ∑(k xi + j yi)...how will I apply the distributive law on it?...I mean how do you split this notion?
 
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Hi dE_logics! :smile:

∑(k xi + j yi)

= ∑(k xi) + ∑(j yi)

= k ∑(xi) + j ∑(yi) :wink:

(if the ∑ is over infinitely many terms, you may have to be careful about convergence …

but if for example all the terms are positive, then there's no difficulty :wink:)
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi dE_logics! :smile:

∑(k xi + j yi)

= ∑(k xi) + ∑(j yi)

= k ∑(xi) + j ∑(yi) :wink:

(if the ∑ is over infinitely many terms, you may have to be careful about convergence …

but if for example all the terms are positive, then there's no difficulty :wink:)


So we won't get ∑(k xi) + ∑(j yi)...that was too a possibility.

So let's take an e.g. -

x1 = 1, x2 = 2, x3 = 7, x4 = 1
y1 - 19, y2 = 8, y3 = -10, y4 = 0
k = j= 3

∑(k xi + j yi) gives -30

k ∑(xi) + j ∑(yi) = -30

and

∑(k xi) + ∑(j yi) = -30

So both of the solutions are true...does everyone agree?...I mean -

∑(k xi) + ∑(j yi) = k ∑(xi) + j ∑(yi)
 
dE_logics said:
So we won't get ∑(k xi) + ∑(j yi)...that was too a possibility.
??Yes, we will, that was Tiny-tim's first step! But you asked about the distributive law and that hasn't been used yet, so then he factored k and j out.

So let's take an e.g. -

x1 = 1, x2 = 2, x3 = 7, x4 = 1
y1 - 19, y2 = 8, y3 = -10, y4 = 0
k = j= 3

∑(k xi + j yi) gives -30

k ∑(xi) + j ∑(yi) = -30

and

∑(k xi) + ∑(j yi) = -30

So both of the solutions are true...does everyone agree?...I mean -

∑(k xi) + ∑(j yi) = k ∑(xi) + j ∑(yi)
Yes, of course.
 
Oh...I didn't see that...thanks.
 

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