How do I calculate density given height and volume?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the density of the Hyperion tree, the tallest tree in the world, using its height and volume. Participants explore methods to estimate the tree's mass and density, considering various factors such as tree species and general density values.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to calculate the mass of the Hyperion tree using its height (115.84 m) and volume (530 m³), questioning how to find density given these parameters.
  • Some participants argue that height and volume alone are insufficient to determine mass, suggesting looking up the density of a generic tree for an estimate.
  • Another participant proposes identifying whether the tree is hardwood or softwood to better estimate density and suggests checking lumber stores for weight data.
  • One participant identifies the tree as a redwood and references a density table, providing a specific density value of 28 lbs/ft³ for American Redwood.
  • Another participant mentions using Google for conversions and calculations, providing a weight estimate based on the volume and mass of the tree.
  • There is a discussion about the specific type of redwood, with one participant noting the three known species and suggesting that the Hyperion tree is likely a Giant Redwood.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on how to calculate density from height and volume alone, with multiple competing views on how to estimate the density of the Hyperion tree.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on various assumptions about tree species and density values, and there are unresolved questions regarding the specific type of redwood and its corresponding density.

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I’m trying to calculate how many Joules are stored in the Hyperion tree, the worlds tallest (115.84 m). However, I cannot find the mass of said tree, and am trying to find it by multiplying density by the volume (530 m^3) because if p=m/V then p•V=m, but I cannot find the density of the tree, so how can I find density given height and volume, if it’s possible?
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One could also find whether it’s a hardwood or softwood and further estimate the density.

Lastly, if there’s any lumber store featuring this wood, you might find the weight of a given plank and compute the density from it.
 
jedishrfu said:
I found the tree is a redwood
But what kind of redwood? :oldbiggrin: The three species I know of are Sequoia sempervirens (Coast redwood), Sequoiadendron giganteum (Giant redwood), and Metasequoia glyptostroboides (Dawn redwood).

The Hyperion tree of this thread is almost certainly a Giant Redwood, a type of redwood found in the Sierra Nevada Range of California, especially in Sequoia National Park. The Coast Redwood is found mostly along the coast of Northern California. The Dawn Redwood, which was a new one to me, is found in China.

As a sidenote, I found it interesting that the "sequoia" part of their names is in honor of Sequoyah, a Cherokee who was responsible for the syllabary of that language.
 
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