How do I calculate the acceleration of a moving container on a specular surface?

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The problem involves an open container with water that is moving horizontally with an unknown acceleration. The angles of incidence and reflection of light on the water's surface are provided, and the goal is to determine the container's acceleration based on these parameters.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the validity of the provided diagram and question whether the angles of incidence and reflection can be accurately applied to a horizontally accelerating body of water. There are suggestions to analyze the forces acting on a small parcel of water and to consider the problem from a non-inertial frame of reference.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup and questioning the assumptions made about the diagram. Some guidance has been offered regarding the analysis of forces and the need for clarity in the diagram representation.

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There is uncertainty regarding the accuracy of the diagram provided, particularly in how it represents the surface of the water and the direction of acceleration. Participants are encouraged to clarify these aspects to better understand the problem.

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Homework Statement


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It's open container with water which moves horizontally. It moves with some acceleration. Angle of incidence (α) and angle of reflection(β) on water are given (α=40 deg., β=20 deg.). We need to find container's acceleration.

Homework Equations


a=(v2-v1)/t (?)

The Attempt at a Solution



I've built angles of incidence and angles of reflection for both cases when v=0 and a=0 but what do to further is a big question for me (maybe this way of solution is wrong).

I'll be grateful for the help
 
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Is this your own diagram or was it provided?
Have you stated the question, word for word, as it was given to you?
I ask because it would be unusual for a horizontally accelerating body of water to have a horizontal surface.
 
haruspex said:
Is this your own diagram or was it provided?
Have you stated the question, word for word, as it was given to you?
I ask because it would be unusual for a horizontally accelerating body of water to have a horizontal surface.
It's open container with water on car. Diagram was provided without vector a
 
Facelam said:
It's open container with water on car. Diagram was provided without vector a
Ok. Distrust the diagram.
Consider a small parcel of water on the surface, or maybe some particle floating there, just submerged. Draw a free body diagram for it. What forces are there? How do these forces account for the acceleration?
Alternatively, if you are comfortable with non-inertial frames, in the frame of reference of the car what are the forces?
 
haruspex said:
Ok. Distrust the diagram.
Consider a small parcel of water on the surface, or maybe some particle floating there, just submerged. Draw a free body diagram for it. What forces are there? How do these forces account for the acceleration?
Alternatively, if you are comfortable with non-inertial frames, in the frame of reference of the car what are the forces?
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It's a copy of diagram and it moves horizontally
 
Facelam said:
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It's a copy of diagram
this diagram shows the container, not the water surface. Note that the incident and reflected rays are not shown meeting.
In your original diagram you assumed acceleration was to the left.
 
haruspex said:
this diagram shows the container, not the water surface. Note that the incident and reflected rays are not shown meeting.
In your original diagram you assumed acceleration was to the left.
There is water inside that container. Yeah, and I can't understand why (how is it possible?).
Acceleration to the left is my supposition
 
Facelam said:
There is water inside that container. Yeah, and I can't understand why (how is it possible?).
Acceleration to the left is my supposition
Yes, there is water inside, but the diagram does not show it, so you do not know what the surface looks like.
Please try to answer my questions in post #4.
 
haruspex said:
Yes, there is water inside, but the diagram does not show it, so you do not know what the surface looks like.
Please try to answer my questions in post #4.
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Don't understand why I didn't see it
 
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Facelam said:
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Don't understand why I didn't see it
That looks much better.
 
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haruspex said:
That looks much better.
Thank you for help!
 

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