How Do I Calculate the Angle Between Vectors in Vector Projection Problems?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the angle between vectors in the context of vector projection problems. Participants are exploring the relationships between vectors, their projections, and the use of the dot product to find angles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to set up the problem using specific vectors and projection formulas. Questions arise about the correct vectors to use and how to apply the dot product to find the angle between them. Some participants express confusion about the setup and calculations involved.

Discussion Status

There are multiple interpretations of the problem, with participants sharing their attempts and calculations. Some have offered insights into using unit vectors and the dot product, while others are questioning their assumptions and the setup of the vectors. Guidance has been provided regarding the representation of vectors in different forms.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under constraints related to the dimensionality of the vectors and the specific components involved, such as the z-component of one vector. There is mention of a requirement to multiply a vector by a scalar, which affects the calculations.

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Homework Statement


http://imgur.com/a/Yq8pW

Homework Equations


projection u onto v: ((u x v)/(||v||^2)) x v
Unit vector: u/||u||

The Attempt at a Solution



For number 2, I absolutely do not know how to set up the problem. I do not know what vectors to use, I assumed F vector to be <0.00375, 0.00625> and v vector to be <3 , 5> and plug them into the projection formula- projection u onto v: ((u x v)/(||v||^2)) x v-but that seems wrong since the teacher addressed that I find the vector of V, magnitude of vector V, and find unit vector so it should be <3, 5>/(sqrt 34) but how do I find the angle off of that?
 
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Do you know about the vector dot product and what it represents?
 
jedishrfu said:
Do you know about the vector dot product and what it represents?

I can find the angle between the vectors. Yes? But what I am confused about is what vectors to use.
 
You have F in i,j,k form and you should have v in i,j,k form.
 
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jedishrfu said:
You have F in i,j,k form and you should have v in i,j,k form.

I think I got it! Except that the question states that the vector V is in the xy plane:
cos^-1((<3 , 5> x <0.00375 , 0.00625>)/(sqrt34 x sqrt 50))=89.94
 
Vector F=<3,5,4>/sqrt(3^2 + 5^2 + 4^2) * 800

so the unit vector for F is: Funit=<3,5,4> / sqrt(3^2 + 5^2 + 4^2) = <3,5,4> / (5*sqrt(2))

and unit vector Vunit = <3,5,0> / sqrt(3^2 + 5^2 + 0^2) = <3,5,0> / sqrt(34)

Funit . Vunit = (3^2 + 5^2 + 0*4) / (5*sqrt(2)*sqrt(34))

I didn't get 89.94 degrees for the angle.
 
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jedishrfu said:
Vector F=<3,5,4>/sqrt(3^2 + 5^2 + 4^2) * 800

so the unit vector for F is: Funit=<3,5,4> / sqrt(3^2 + 5^2 + 4^2) = <3,5,4> / (5*sqrt(2))

and unit vector Vunit = <3,5,0> / sqrt(3^2 + 5^2 + 0^2) = <3,5,0> / sqrt(34)

Funit . Vunit = (3^2 + 5^2 + 0*4) / (5*sqrt(2)*sqrt(34))

I didn't get 89.94 degrees for the angle.

Did not realize I had to multiply my F vector by 800. And based on your solution, the angle is found to be 34.4. Thanks much!
 
In this case, there was a shortcut way too. If you notice that F, v and the 4k z component of F form a right triangle with F as the hypotenuse so that the sin of the angle must be 4/magnitude(F) = 4/sqrt(50) and hence its 34.4 degrees.
 

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