Maximizing Vector Sum with Constant Magnitudes

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The discussion revolves around maximizing the magnitude of the sum of two vectors, u and v, whose magnitudes are constant. The original poster presents a mathematical formulation involving the vectors and their angles, seeking to determine the angle that maximizes the resultant vector's magnitude.

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  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the expression for the magnitude of the sum of the vectors with respect to the angle between them. Some participants question whether the vectors can be treated as constants in this context, while others suggest focusing on when the cosine function reaches its maximum value.

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Participants are exploring different approaches to the problem, with some providing guidance on simplifying the original poster's thought process. The conversation includes clarifications about the treatment of the vectors and their norms, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a consensus.

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There is a mention of the original poster's uncertainty about whether the problem fits better in this forum or a calculus forum, highlighting the interdisciplinary nature of the topic. Additionally, the discussion touches on the importance of understanding the distinction between the vectors' directions and their magnitudes.

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Let there be two vectors, u and v. Whose magnitudes are constant

u
= [a, b]
v = [x, y]

Define c = ||u|| and k = ||v||

Now sum the vectors:

w = u + v = [a, b] +[x, y] = [a+x, b+y]

Now find ||w||

||w||
=√(a+x)2+(b+y)2

||w|| = √a2+2ax+x2+b2+2by+y2

||w|| = √u⋅u + v⋅v +2(ax+by)

||w|| = √u⋅u + v⋅v +2(u⋅v)

||w|| = √u⋅u + v⋅v +2||u|| ||v|| cos Θ

||w|| = √u⋅u + v⋅v +2ck cos Θ

Here is where I have trouble. I want to find the angle between the two vectors that would make ||w|| take on the largest possible value. I know that to do so I have to differentiate with respect to Θ. What I am not sure about is whether I would treat u and v as constants. Also I apologize if this does not belong in this forum. I was torn between this forum and the calculus forum.

EDIT:
Disregard that last part. This post was moved from the Linear algebra thread
 
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I don't think you need the derivative of ##\cos \Theta##. Just ask yourself, when does the cosine have its maximal values?
 
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Thank you. That's much simpler. I was overthinking it.
 
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Even then, you asked if you can consider the vectors to be constant or not. That is still an important issue no matter what approach you use. You can not consider them to be constant, since you are considering different angles between them. But you can consider their norms to be constant regardless of which way they are pointing. That is all you need. To be picky, you should put the equation in a form that does not depend on the exact vectors but just on their norms before you state that the norms are constant.
 
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