How do I choose u' u and v for relative velocity

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The discussion focuses on calculating the speed of ejected material from a quasar relative to Earth using the relativistic velocity addition formula. The quasar recedes from Earth at a speed of 0.87c, while the material is ejected towards Earth at 0.55c relative to the quasar. The correct formula to use is u = (u' + v) / (1 + u'v/c²), ensuring that the velocities are referenced correctly to maintain consistent sign conventions. The participants emphasize the importance of understanding reference frames in relativistic contexts.

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Homework Statement


A certain quasar recedes from the Earth with a speed of .87c. a jet of material is ejjected towards the Earth at .55c relative to the quasar. find speed of ejected material relative to the earth

Homework Equations


u = u'+v / 1 + u'v/c^2

The Attempt at a Solution


guessing. that if I draw both reference frames, v is the velocity that stays constant. in this case v=.87c. in one reference frame, the quasar is receding, and in the other the Earth is receding from the quasar. either way there is a .87c and I will call it v.

u is the velocity in the reference frame that it is given. .55c is the velocity of the ejected material in the quasar's reference frame. I want it in the Earth's reference frame though, so I call the known velocity in the quasar's reference frame u and the unknown velocity in the Earth's reference frame u'.

and as long as I keep my signs straight, this should work right?scratch that. the signs on u and v must be from the same reference frame.
 
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You might find this way of writing the velocity addition formula helpful:
Doc Al said:
Addition of (parallel) velocities:

Low-speed (Galilean) addition of velocities:
V_{a/c} = V_{a/b} + V_{b/c}

Relativistic addition of velocities:
V_{a/c} = \frac{V_{a/b} + V_{b/c}}{1 + (V_{a/b} V_{b/c})/c^2}
Where ##V_{a/c}##, for example, means the velocity of a as measured by c. That should allow you to keep the signs straight.
 

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