How do I determine if a plane is even with respect to an axis?

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The discussion revolves around determining whether a plane, specifically the plane described by the equation ##z=4-y##, is even or symmetric with respect to various axes. Participants explore both graphical and algebraic methods for assessing symmetry, focusing on the definitions and implications of being "even" in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the plane ##z=4-y## is even with respect to the x-axis but not with respect to the y-axis or z-axis based on graphical observations.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of "even with respect to an axis," suggesting that it may refer to symmetry.
  • A participant explains that symmetry about an axis involves specific conditions for points on the surface, such as (x, y, z) and (-x, y, z) for the y-z plane.
  • Graphical evidence is presented to support the claim that the volume under the plane is symmetric across the x-axis, while this symmetry does not hold for the y-axis and z-axis.
  • There is a challenge regarding the description of the image, with one participant asserting that the solid is symmetric across the y-z plane, which contradicts the initial claim of symmetry across the x-axis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of being "even" or symmetric with respect to the axes. There is no consensus on the interpretation of these terms or the conclusions drawn from the graphical analysis.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on graphical representations and algebraic conditions to discuss symmetry, but the definitions of "even" and "symmetric" remain ambiguous and are not universally agreed upon. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical conditions for symmetry.

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I know that the plane ##z=4-y## is even with respect to the x-axis and is not even with respect to the y-axis and z-axis from graphing the plane.

How would I algebraically determine this?
 
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What do you mean by 'even w.r.t. an axis'?
 
ainster31 said:
I know that the plane ##z=4-y## is even with respect to the x-axis and is not even with respect to the y-axis and z-axis from graphing the plane.

How would I algebraically determine this?

By "even" do you mean "symmetric"?

Assuming that's what you mean, then if the points (x, y, z) and (-x, y, z) are both on a given surface, then the surface has symmetry across the y-z plane. Each point is directly across the y-z plane from the other. Similarly, if the points (x, y, z) and (x, -y, z) are both on a surface, then the surface has symmetry with respect to the x-z plane.

Symmetry about an axis is different, because we're not talking mirror images any more. If the points (x, y, z) and (-x, -y, z) are both on a surface, then the surface is symmetric about the z-axis. I'll let you figure out what it means for a surface to have symmetry about the other two axes.
 
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SteamKing said:
What do you mean by 'even w.r.t. an axis'?

http://i.imgur.com/Y9PfN4b.png

The volume under the plane from both sides of the x-axis is the same but this is not the case for the y-axis and z-axis.
 
ainster31 said:
http://i.imgur.com/Y9PfN4b.png

The volume under the plane from both sides of the x-axis is the same but this is not the case for the y-axis and z-axis.
You are not describing the image correctly. The solid is symmetric across the y-z plane. I described this in my previous post.
 

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