How Do I Express Mass and e in Natural Units?

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The discussion centers on calculating the coefficients of the massive Higgs Lagrangian in natural units, specifically with ħ = c = 1. The masses of the Higgs (125.09±0.21 GeV), W (80.4 GeV), and Z (91.2 GeV) bosons are confirmed to be in GeV. The value of the electric charge e is established as 2√(απ), where α represents the Fine Structure Constant. Participants emphasize the importance of specifying units when discussing particle masses and the relationship between electric charge and the fine structure constant.

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Hi Everyone,

I have to calculate the coefficients of the massive Higgs Lagrangian in natural units, ħ = c = 1.

Do I assume firstly that, in these units the masses of the Higgs, W and Z are the usual,
125.09±0.21, 80.4, 91.2 respectively, and secondly that e has to have the value 2√(απ), where α is the Fine Structure Constant? This seems to make sense.

Please tell me if these values are correct and if not, what the values are and how they come about.

Your assistance will be greatly appreciated!

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Setting \hbar = c = 1 doesn't get rid of all of your units - masses still have dimension, so you need to specify the units when you cite a mass.

Similarly, you should be clear about electromagnetic units. There are units where e is dimensionless, but unless you specify that unit system, I can't tell you the relation between electric charge and the fine structure constant.
 
king vitamin said:
Setting \hbar = c = 1 doesn't get rid of all of your units - masses still have dimension, so you need to specify the units when you cite a mass.

Similarly, you should be clear about electromagnetic units. There are units where e is dimensionless, but unless you specify that unit system, I can't tell you the relation between electric charge and the fine structure constant.

Thanks for replying.

The unit system being used would be the one most commonly employed by particle physicists. I would be happy to know the values in the most commonly used system.

Cheers
 
In QFT textbooks one often uses energy for all units, and sets \epsilon_0 = 1. If temperature is ever used, also set k_B = 1.

So you should be sure to put the units on the numbers you gave to the particle masses you mentioned (they are all in GeV). The fine structure constant in SI units is

<br /> \alpha = \frac{e^2}{4 \pi \epsilon_0 \hbar c}<br />

so clearly

<br /> e = \sqrt{4 \pi \alpha}<br />

as you said.
 
king vitamin said:
In QFT textbooks one often uses energy for all units, and sets \epsilon_0 = 1. If temperature is ever used, also set k_B = 1.

So you should be sure to put the units on the numbers you gave to the particle masses you mentioned (they are all in GeV). The fine structure constant in SI units is

<br /> \alpha = \frac{e^2}{4 \pi \epsilon_0 \hbar c}<br />

so clearly

<br /> e = \sqrt{4 \pi \alpha}<br />

as you said.
Thanks very much for your help. I have to give a talk and I wanted to make sure I got it right. Really need to do more calculations more often, so that I will be comfortable with the various systems of units. Thanks again! Cheers.
 

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