Manipulating quantities with natural units

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This discussion focuses on the manipulation of quantities using natural units, specifically the conversion of energy (joules) into mass using the equation \( m = \frac{E}{c^{2}} \). The participant demonstrates the conversion process by setting the speed of light \( c \) to 1 light second per second and rearranging units algebraically. The validity of treating units as algebraic variables is affirmed, allowing for the rearrangement of expressions like \( 300 \text{ MeV} / c^{2} \) into different unit forms. The discussion emphasizes the importance of consistent unit usage in calculations involving energy and mass.

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  • Understanding of natural units and their application in physics
  • Familiarity with the equation \( m = \frac{E}{c^{2}} \)
  • Basic algebraic manipulation of units
  • Knowledge of energy units such as joules and MeV
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etotheipi
I'm only really just learning how natural units work so forgive me if this seems like a silly question.

I was just wondering if someone could verify whether the following line of reasoning is valid (I will use joules instead of electron volts just so we can ignore the e conversion factor for now). I'm just going to convert say 5J into a mass.

I first set c to 1 light second per second. Then noting that $$m = \frac{E}{c^{2}}$$ I say that $$m = \frac{5J}{(1 ls s^{-1})^{2}} = 5 \frac{J}{(ls s^{-1})^{2}}$$ Though this is an ugly unit so I'll just write it as $$5 \frac{J}{c^{2}}$$ When I feel like converting back into SI units, this is equivalent to $$5 \frac{J}{(3*10^{8} m s^{-1})^{2}}=\frac{5}{(3*10^{8})^{2}} \frac{J}{(m s^{-1})^{2}}=\frac{5}{(3*10^{8})^{2}} \frac{kg m^{2} s^{-2}}{(m s^{-1})^{2}}=\frac{5}{(3*10^{8})^{2}} kg$$

The logic seems ok to me when I consider the unit to be just as important a part of the overall quantity as the numerical value preceding it and so I treat it just like a normal algebraic variable.

I guess the main point of my question is whether we can move values between the units and their numerical 'coefficients' so to speak. So something like $$300 MeV / c^{2}$$ can be rearranged to $$\frac{300}{(3*10^{8})^2} \frac{MeV}{(m s^{-1})^{2}}$$ and so on.
 
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Hello.
etotheipi said:
I guess the main point of my question is whether we can move values between the units and their numerical 'coefficients' so to speak.
It seems OK to me as in plain case,
300\ km/h=300\times 1000 \ m/h = 300/3600 \ km/s
 
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If you use light-second as the unit of length, then you must also use it in your unit of energy.
[Energy] = ML2T-2
(Joule uses meter as the unit of length.)
 

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