How do I find the integral of x^3/(x^2+4)?

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The discussion revolves around finding the integral of the function \( \frac{x^3}{x^2+4} \). Participants explore various methods of integration, including substitution and polynomial long division, while attempting to reconcile their results with a provided book answer.

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  • One participant begins by stating the integral to evaluate and presents a book answer, leading to a substitution approach with \( u = x^2 + 4 \).
  • Another participant suggests using the same substitution but provides a different expression for \( dx \) and reformulates the integral.
  • There are discussions about integrating the resulting expressions, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the correctness of their results.
  • One participant proposes a long division method for simplifying the integral, suggesting that it may lead to easier integrals to solve.
  • Multiple participants express similar results but note discrepancies in constants and terms, particularly regarding the presence of the number 4 in the leading term of their results.
  • There is a mention that differing results by a constant in indefinite integrals are still considered equivalent.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct form of the integral. There are competing views on the methods used and the resulting expressions, with some participants correcting or refining earlier claims without establishing a definitive answer.

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Some participants express uncertainty regarding the integration steps and the handling of constants, indicating that there may be unresolved mathematical steps in their reasoning.

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W8.5.7
Evaluate
$$\displaystyle \int\frac{{x}^{3}}{{x}^{2 }+4}\ dx $$
The book answer was
$$\displaystyle\frac{{x}^{2}}{2 }
-2\ln\left({4+{x}^{2 }}\right)+C$$
So
$$\displaystyle u=x^2 +4\ \ \ \ du=2x\ \ dx \ \ x=\sqrt{u-4} $$
Then
$$\displaystyle \int\frac{{x}^{2}}{{x}^{2 }+4}x\ dx
\implies \frac{1}{2} \int \frac{u-4}{u}\ \ du$$
I continued but didn't get the answer
 
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If you use:

$$u=x^2+4$$

then we have:

$$x=\sqrt{u-4}\implies dx=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{u-4}}\,du$$

And so the integral becomes:

$$I=\frac{(u-4)^{\frac{3}{2}}}{u}\cdot\frac{1}{2\sqrt{u-4}}\,du=\frac{1}{2}\int \frac{u-4}{u}\,du=\frac{1}{2}\int 1-\frac{4}{u}\,du$$

When you integrate, combine the resulting constant with the constant of integration and then back-substitute for $u$.
 
$$ \frac{1}{2 }\int 1\ du - 2 \int\frac{1}{u} \ du
\implies\frac{u}{2}-2 \ln\left({u}\right)+C$$
Plug in is close but not it
 
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karush said:
$$ \frac{1}{2 }\int 1\ dx - 2 \int\frac{1}{u} \ du
\implies\frac{u}{2}-2 \ln\left({u}\right)+C$$
Plug in is close but not it

When you back-substitute for $u$, what do you get?
 
$$\frac{x^2 +4}{2} +2\ln\left({x^2 +4}\right)+C $$
The 4 in the leading term shouldn't be there
 
karush said:
$$\frac{x^2 +4}{2} +2\ln\left({x^2 +4}\right)+C $$
The 4 in the leading term shouldn't be there

Then separate it, and move it like so:

$$\frac{x^2}{2} +2\ln\left({x^2 +4}\right)+C+2$$

Now, an arbitrary constant $C$ with $2$ added to it is still just an arbitrary constant, so you may write:

$$\frac{x^2}{2} +2\ln\left({x^2 +4}\right)+C$$

When doing indefinite integrals, if your anti-derivative differs from the given answer by only a constant, then you know the two results are equivalent. :)
 
Well sure helpful to know that.. 😍
 
karush said:
W8.5.7
Evaluate
$$\displaystyle \int\frac{{x}^{3}}{{x}^{2 }+4}\ dx $$
The book answer was
$$\displaystyle\frac{{x}^{2}}{2 }
-2\ln\left({4+{x}^{2 }}\right)+C$$
So
$$\displaystyle u=x^2 +4\ \ \ \ du=2x\ \ dx \ \ x=\sqrt{u-4} $$
Then
$$\displaystyle \int\frac{{x}^{2}}{{x}^{2 }+4}x\ dx
\implies \frac{1}{2} \int \frac{u-4}{u}\ \ du$$
I continued but didn't get the answer

Whenever you have a rational function of polynomials with the numerator of higher degree than the denominator, a good simplification is to long divide.

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{ \frac{x^3}{x^2 + 4} \,\mathrm{d}x} &= \int{ \frac{x^3 + 4\,x - 4\,x}{x^2 + 4} \,\mathrm{d}x} \\ &= \int{ \left[ \frac{x\,\left( x^2 + 4 \right) }{x^2 + 4} - \frac{4\,x}{x^2 + 4}\right] \,\mathrm{d}x} \\ &= \int{ \left( x - \frac{4\,x}{x^2 + 4} \right) \,\mathrm{d}x } \\ &= \int{x\,\mathrm{d}x } - 2\int{ \frac{2\,x}{x^2 + 4} \,\mathrm{d}x} \end{align*}$

Both of these resulting integrals should be VERY easy to solve...
 
$\displaystyle\frac{{x}^{2}}{2 }
-2\ln\left({4+{x}^{2 }}\right)+C$
 

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