How Do I Integrate a WKBJ Semi-Classic Integral with a Square Root?

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The discussion revolves around integrating a WKBJ semi-classic integral involving a square root, specifically the integral \(\int_{0}^{\sqrt{m}E}\sqrt{E-\frac{x}{\sqrt{m}}}dx\). Participants express varying levels of familiarity with integration techniques and seek clarification on how to approach this problem.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss different methods for integrating square roots, including substitution and referencing integral tables. There is a focus on understanding the limits of integration and the implications of variable substitution.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes attempts to clarify integration techniques, with some participants offering hints and suggestions for substitution. There is acknowledgment of mistakes in earlier attempts, and a general sense of collaborative exploration is present, though no consensus on a specific method has been reached.

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Some participants mention a lack of experience with integration and express uncertainty about the applicability of certain techniques learned in earlier courses. The original poster seems to be grappling with the integration process itself rather than the specifics of the WKBJ context.

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Homework Statement


I am having a problem integrating in a WKBJ semi-classic integral. Well it's this : I have to integrate

[itex]\int_{0}^{\sqrt{m}E}\sqrt{E-\frac{x}{\sqrt{m}}}dx[/itex]

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Actually I don't have that much experience at integrating, so could you somehow show me how to integrate when you have a square root? Step by step this particular one, for example.

The Attempt at a Solution


I have tried setting the square root equal to a variable, t, and saying that the integral goes like
[itex]\int_{0}^{\sqrt{m}E}t^2dt[/itex] but it didn't seem to work out later on, plus I am almost sure this isn't correct.
 
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karkas said:
... could you somehow show me how to integrate when you have a square root?
I would just look it up in a table, as I usually do. I'm sure there's some trick that I was taught in calc 2, but you know, in my experience, most of those tricks are almost never useful anywhere besides a calc 2 test. And for such a simple integral, you can definitely find it in a table. Any integral of a squareroot of a 2nd order polynomial will be in even a modest table of integrals.
 
karkas said:
I have tried setting the square root equal to a variable, t, and saying that the integral goes like
[itex]\int_{0}^{\sqrt{m}E}t^2dt[/itex] but it didn't seem to work out later on, plus I am almost sure this isn't correct.
OK, now I feel dumb. Yes, that is such an easy substitution. You just screwed up your limits. I'm guessing that you defined t as the squareroot. So, what is t when x=0 and what is t when x=\sqrt{m}E? Also, I think you get some additional factor.
 
That integral can be solved with a simple substitution. Hint: look at the quantity under the radical sign.
 
Is this what I should be getting from a table?

When i need to integrate [itex]\int (ax+b) dx[/itex] I set the square root equal to S and proceed to [itex]\int_{0}^{\sqrt{m}E}S dx=\frac{2S^3}{3a}[/itex] if [itex]S=\sqrt{ax + b}[/itex]?
 
Yes, though you probably meant to say

[itex] \int \sqrt{ax+b} \ dx[/itex]

for the integral.
 
Yes indeed, my mistake! Well thanks for the help, I will work on it now :)
 

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