How do I make an atomic oscillation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of atomic oscillation and the thermal energy emitted by atoms. Participants explore how to induce oscillation in atoms, the nature of thermal energy at the atomic level, and the differences between single atoms and bulk materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that shaking an atom can induce oscillation.
  • One participant argues that single atoms do not emit thermal energy, stating that the radiation from a single atom results from electronic transitions, leading to discrete frequencies rather than a continuous spectrum.
  • Another participant mentions that even in large collections of atoms, the spectra cannot be truly continuous, although they may appear so due to closely spaced frequencies.
  • Some participants propose that binding atoms into molecules allows for vibrational and rotational energy levels, which could lead to oscillation.
  • Others suggest that ions can be made to oscillate in an oscillating electric field, or that neutral atoms can oscillate in a magnetic trap.
  • A participant references the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) in relation to the discussion but does not clarify its relevance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the ability of single atoms to oscillate and the nature of thermal energy emitted by them. There is no consensus on how atomic oscillation can be achieved or on the characteristics of thermal energy at the atomic level.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on specific definitions of thermal energy and oscillation, and the discussion includes unresolved aspects regarding the mechanisms of light generation from atoms in bulk materials.

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How do I make an atom oscillation?
What is the thermal energy that an atom emits?
 
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Another said:
How do I make an atom oscillation?

Shake it.
 
Another said:
How do I make an atom oscillation?

You can make an atom oscillate by shaking it.

Another said:
What is the thermal energy that an atom emits?

None. Single atoms don't emit thermal energy. At least I wouldn't call it thermal energy. The radiation emitted from a single atom is caused by electronic transitions (electrons moving between various energy levels in their orbitals) and the spectrum is one of discrete frequencies, not a continuous spectrum like you see in bulk materials. For example, a hydrogen atom can emit radiation at 4 distinct frequencies in the visible part of the spectrum, whereas the spectrum of a hot object composed of trillions of atoms is continuous from red to violet (and beyond both ends).
 
Drakkith said:
You can make an atom oscillate by shaking it.
None. Single atoms don't emit thermal energy. At least I wouldn't call it thermal energy. The radiation emitted from a single atom is caused by electronic transitions (electrons moving between various energy levels in their orbitals) and the spectrum is one of discrete frequencies, not a continuous spectrum like you see in bulk materials. For example, a hydrogen atom can emit radiation at 4 distinct frequencies in the visible part of the spectrum, whereas the spectrum of a hot object composed of trillions of atoms is continuous from red to violet (and beyond both ends).
Even spectra of big collection of atoms can't be continuous but frequencies might be close enough to give a look of continuity.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Shake it.
Vanadium 50 said:
Shake it.
Baby! :smile:
 
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gianeshwar said:
Even spectra of big collection of atoms can't be continuous but frequencies might be close enough to give a look of continuity.

Hmm. Maybe. But I'm not so sure. Electronic transitions are not the only way that light can be generated from atoms within a bulk material, and I don't know if they other ways (acceleration of moving charges, discrete transitions being red/blue shifted from their motions, etc) can generate a continuous spectrum or not.
 
Another said:
How do I make an atom oscillation?
you can't
A single atom, neutral, there is really no way I know (I could be mistaken) to make it oscillate.
Bind two or more atoms together, make a molecule and then, you have vibrational and rotational energy levels.
 
rootone said:
Good question; the LHC is our best experimental attempt to find out so far.
https://home.cern/topics/large-hadron-collider
I don't see how the LHC would have anything to do with this thread.
Henryk said:
you can't
A single atom, neutral, there is really no way I know (I could be mistaken) to make it oscillate.
Bind two or more atoms together, make a molecule and then, you have vibrational and rotational energy levels.
You can put an ion in an oscillating electric field to make it oscillate. You can put a neutral atom in a suitable magnetic trap and make it oscillate. And various more methods.
 

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