How Do I Solve This Garden Border Problem?

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem involving the area of a garden with a rectangular shape, a uniform border, and a square pond. Participants explore how to derive a specific quadratic equation related to the dimensions and areas involved in the problem.

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  • One participant presents the problem and expresses difficulty in deriving the equation related to the garden's dimensions and areas.
  • Another participant suggests drawing a diagram to visualize the problem, indicating that the dimensions of the inner area are \(20 - 2x\) and \(8 - 2x\), and proposes to equate the area to \(124 \text{ m}^2\) to derive the quadratic equation.
  • A later reply acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the dimensions and expresses gratitude for the diagram suggestion, indicating a willingness to attempt the problem again.
  • Some participants emphasize the value of diagrams in understanding and solving mathematical problems, citing external resources for further assistance.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of visual aids like diagrams in solving the problem, but there is no consensus on the specific steps to derive the equation or the interpretation of the problem's dimensions.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the interpretation of the problem's wording, which may affect their understanding of the dimensions and areas involved.

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Here's another question I'm finding it hard to get started on:

" A garden is in the shape of a rectangle, 20 metres by 8 metres. Around the outside is a border of uniform width, and in the middle is a square pond. The width of the border is the same as the width of the pond. The size of the are which is NOT occupied by either border or pond is \(124m^2\). Letting the width of the border be \(xm\), derive the equation \(3x^2-56x + 36 = 0\).

The only equation I can derive is this: A (total area) = \((2x + 20)(2x + 8)\). I'm not sure how to relate the information about the square and the inner area of \(124^2m\). Any help appreciated. I'm still finding these sort of questions difficult :confused:
 
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First, let's draw a diagram:

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Now, the area we want is shaded in green. The width of this area is $20-2x$ and the length is $8-2x$. Then we need to subtract the area of the pond, which is $x^2$. Can you put this all together and equate it to $124\text{ m}^2$ to obtain the required quadratic in $x$?
 

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MarkFL said:
First, let's draw a diagram:

View attachment 2584

Now, the area we want is shaded in green. The width of this area is $20-2x$ and the length is $8-2x$. Then we need to subtract the area of the pond, which is $x^2$. Can you put this all together and equate it to $124\text{ m}^2$ to obtain the required quadratic in $x$?

Thanks. Wow, I misread the meaning and thought that the 20x8 dimension was for the inner garden area -I find it's easy to get verbally confused! I'll have a go now based on your diagram -thanks a lot!
 
Ah, the importance of drawing a diagram cannot be overlooked. While a picture is never a proof, they can sure help to get the proof! (Or solution, in this case.)

Take a gander at the http://mathhelpboards.com/other-topics-22/problem-solving-strategy-28.html I've culled from various sources. It might help you out with word problems.
 
Ackbach said:
Ah, the importance of drawing a diagram cannot be overlooked. While a picture is never a proof, they can sure help to get the proof! (Or solution, in this case.)

Never a truer word said. [And for those who haven't already, and who might yet doubt the veracity of Ackbach's words, see Tristan Needham's "Visual Complex Analysis" (Heidy) ]
 

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