How do I solve this tricky math problem involving sums?

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem involving the evaluation of sums, specifically geometric series. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the solution to a sum involving two geometric series with different bases.

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  • Participants discuss the properties of geometric series and provide hints related to the formula for summing such series. Questions arise about the proof of the geometric series identity and the behavior of the series as it approaches infinity.

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The discussion includes hints and guidance on the geometric series, with some participants confirming the correctness of derived limits. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the series' behavior as the number of terms increases, but no consensus has been reached on the original poster's understanding of the problem.

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Participants note the importance of the condition |q|<1 for the convergence of the series and discuss the limits involved in the evaluation of infinite series.

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Some sums, don't sum up :)

I have a problem that require some math tricks, and after I tried to solve it myself I looked at the answer and I don't understand how this is done :
[tex] \[<br /> \sum\limits_{k = 0}^n {\left( {\frac{2}{5}} \right)^k } + \sum\limits_{k = 0}^n {\left( {\frac{3}{5}} \right)^k } = \frac{5}{3}\left( {1 - \left( {\frac{2}{5}} \right)^{n + 1} } \right) + \frac{5}{2}\left( {1 - \left( {\frac{3}{5}} \right)^{n + 1} } \right)<br /> \][/tex]

An advice pls, thx!
 
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Hello seaglespn,

Hint: geometric series :wink:

[tex]\sum\limits_{k = 0}^n q^{k}=\frac{1-q^{n+1}}{1-q}[/tex]

for [tex]|q|<1[/tex]

Do you know how to prove this identity?
Although not necessary for solving this problem you might want to take a look at the infinite geometric series as well.

[tex]\sum\limits_{k = 0}^\infty q^{k}[/tex]

for [tex]|q|<1[/tex]

What would be the limit?

Regards,

nazzard
 
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nazzard said:
Hello seaglespn,

Hint: geometric series :wink:

[tex]\sum\limits_{k = 0}^n q^{k}=\frac{1-q^{n+1}}{1-q}[/tex]

for [tex]|q|<1[/tex]

Do you know how to prove this identity?
Although not necessary for solving this problem you might want to take a look at the infinite geometric series as well.

[tex]\sum\limits_{k = 0}^\infty q^{k}[/tex]

for [tex]|q|<1[/tex]

What would be the limit?

Regards,

nazzard
Ok, I have done the math, and I end up with the correct answer, after I wasn't so sure about the : [tex]\[<br /> b_n = b_1 \frac{{q^n - 1}}{{q - 1}}<br /> \][/tex]

Where the power of q must be the TOTAL number of elements...

Code:
Sorry, my mistake... :smile:
The sum thends to a constant... but that might be a definitions somewhere...
And it didn't rings any bell to me...
A constant "variable" due to q. :smile: .
Goofy me...

Thx for the help!

Regards,
seaglespn.
 
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seaglespn said:
And about the sum which tends to infinit the limit would be 0 if |x|<1 , else it would be infinite... :smile:

Try again please :smile:

[tex]\sum\limits_{k = 0}^\infty q^{k}=\lim_{\substack{n\rightarrow\infty}}\sum\limits_{k = 0}^{n} q^{k}=\lim_{\substack{n\rightarrow\infty}}\frac{1-q^{n+1}}{1-q}=?[/tex]

Remember [tex]|q|<1[/tex]
 
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[tex] \[<br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{n \to \infty } \frac{{1 - q^{n + 1} }}{{1 - q}} = \frac{1}{{1 - q}} = ?<br /> \][/tex]
 
[tex] \[<br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{n \to \infty } \frac{{1 - q^{n + 1} }}{{1 - q}} = \frac{1}{{1 - q}} \]<br /> [/tex]
?
Sorry about double post... my refresh is kinda slow :smile:
 
seaglespn said:
[tex] \[<br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{n \to \infty } \frac{{1 - q^{n + 1} }}{{1 - q}} = \frac{1}{{1 - q}} \]<br /> [/tex]
?

correct :smile:

Regards,

nazzard
 
Thanks for your help @nazzard... :smile:

Cheers!
 

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