How do neutrinos behave near a black hole?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of neutrinos in the vicinity of black holes, exploring theoretical implications and the nature of neutrinos in relation to gravity and dark matter. Participants examine concepts related to gravitational interaction, escape velocity, and the characteristics of neutrinos as they approach a black hole's event horizon.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that neutrinos, having a small mass, should be drawn into a black hole due to gravitational attraction.
  • Others propose that neutrinos are a form of dark matter, leading to the idea that many neutrinos may pass through a black hole without being absorbed.
  • One participant asserts that neutrinos obey gravity and would not be able to escape a black hole once they cross the event horizon.
  • A later reply challenges the notion of neutrinos as dark matter, emphasizing that this is a hypothesis not widely favored, and suggests that WIMPs are more likely candidates for dark matter.
  • Another participant clarifies that neutrinos follow timelike worldlines and can orbit a black hole if they pass close enough, but will eventually fall through the event horizon if they get too close.
  • It is noted that for an outside observer, neutrinos near the horizon may appear trapped, similar to light and other matter.
  • There is a recognition that the behavior of neutrinos in black holes is still not fully understood, particularly regarding their interactions with gravity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether neutrinos can be classified as dark matter and how they behave near black holes. The discussion includes both supportive and opposing arguments, indicating that no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on specific interpretations of current theories, and the discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with the history of neutrino research and dark matter hypotheses. The implications of neutrino interactions with black holes remain unresolved.

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how will a neutrino behave near a block hole? neutrino is having small mass. so it should be sucked into it?
 
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We know in order to escape a black hole you have to go >c speed. Neutrinos is a form of dark matter, so probably trillions go through a black hole every second, or the particle can't go through it and go into the black hole.
 
Neutrino's obey gravity to my knowledge and would be not be able to escape the black hole.
 
DarkScareCrow said:
We know in order to escape a black hole you have to go >c speed. Neutrinos is a form of dark matter, so probably trillions go through a black hole every second, or the particle can't go through it and go into the black hole.

Uh, WHAT? I don't know where you got the idea that neutrinos are a form of dark matter, but that is purely a hypothesis and not a favored one. WIMPS are much more likely to be what dark matter is make up of.

In any event, as drakkith pointed out, they certainly do NOT ... oh, wait a minute. I was about to respond as though you had said that they go through the black hole, but what you actually said was that either they do or they don't. Well, you got me there. It certainly is true that either they do or they don't. In fact they don't.

EDIT: OK, I'm new to this stuff and had not read the history of the search for dark matter but I see now that neutrinos were once a leading contender so I see where you go the idea. I emphasize "WERE ONCE".
 
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phinds said:
Uh, WHAT? I don't know where you got the idea that neutrinos are a form of dark matter, but that is purely a hypothesis and not a favored one. WIMPS are much more likely to be what dark matter is make up of.

In any event, as drakkith pointed out, they certainly do NOT ... oh, wait a minute. I was about to respond as though you had said that they go through the black hole, but what you actually said was that either they do or they don't. Well, you got me there. It certainly is true that either they do or they don't. In fact they don't.

EDIT: OK, I'm new to this stuff and had not read the history of the search for dark matter but I see now that neutrinos were once a leading contender so I see where you go the idea. I emphasize "WERE ONCE".

I know I was wrong. They barely interact with matter, but they aren't dark matter. What happens to neutrino in a black hole is still unknown because neutrinos interact with gravity as Drakkith said.
 
Well, as long as one is sticking to current mainstream theories there is no question at all. Neutrinos follow timelike worldlines that are nearly light like. If the pass near enough to a black hole horizon, they will orbit it (but probably the orbit will be unstable, leading to: ); if they pass closer than this, they will soon fall through the event horizon (from the neutrino's point of view). They will then reach the singularity pretty quickly, just like light or any other matter. This is all dependent only on spacetime geometry, irrelevant to the way neutrinos interact with matter.

Note, that for an outside observer, neutrinos passing near the horizon will appear be trapped at the horizion forever, just like light and any other type of matter.

Nutshell - there is nothing special about the way neutrinos interact with black holes compared to other particles (unless current theories are substantially wrong).
 

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