How Do Protons Hit a Target Under Electric Field Influence?

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The discussion revolves around the motion of protons projected into a uniform electric field, specifically focusing on determining the angles of projection and the total duration of flight required to hit a target at a specified horizontal distance. The subject area includes concepts from projectile motion and electric forces.

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  • Participants explore the equations of projectile motion and the influence of an electric field on the trajectory of protons. There are attempts to derive the angles of projection using trigonometric identities and quadratic equations. Some participants question the accuracy of their calculations and the values used in their equations.

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There is an ongoing examination of the calculations related to the angles of projection, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their results. A participant has acknowledged a mistake in using the wrong mass, which led to a revision of their angle calculations. Multiple values for the angles are being discussed, indicating a lack of consensus on the correct approach.

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Protons are projected with an initial speed of v0 = 9550 m/s into a region in which a uniform electric field E = 720N/C [down] is present. The protons are to hit a target that lies a horizontal distance of 1.27mm from the point at which the protons are launched.

a) find the two projection angles theta that will result in a hit
b) what is the total duration of flight for each of the two trajectories?

a) equations for projectile motion
(1) x = v0 cos (theta) t
(2) y = v0 sin (theta) t - 1/2gt^2

gelec = |field| / mass = |qfield x E| / m

x = (R, 0) where R = 1.27mm = 1.27 x 10^-3 m

solve equation 2 for t. t = 0 or t = 2v0sin theta / g (we use this one)

(3) R = 2Vo^2 sin (theta) cos (theta) / gelec
(4) sin (theta) cos (theta) = A = a number

square equation (4) : sin (theta)^2 cos (theta)^2 = A^2
sin (theta)^2 (1 - sin (theta)^2) = A^2
sin (theta)^4 - sin (theta)^2 + A^2 = 0

using quadratic equation ... Let x be sin (theta)^2

x^2 - x + A^2 = 0
1 +/- (1 - 4A^2)^1/2 <--- equation 5
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2

a) theta = inverse sin (sqrt x)
= 53 or 37 degrees.

I'd really appreciate it if someone could check my work / answer over for me. Thanks in advance.

b) t = (2vosintheta) / g
= 2.2 x 10^-7 s
 
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Check your calculations. I am getting ~ 5 and 85 degrees.

(3) R = 2Vo^2 sin (theta) cos (theta) / gelec

After this, you can simplyfy your calculation a lot by using the fact that,
2sin(theta)cos(theta)= sin(2theta)

So you have sin(2theta)= 2*A = a number and solve for theta.
You will get the second value for theta by knowing that sin(pi - theta)= sin (theta).

Hope this helps.
 
hm . i still got 37 and 53 degrees using your method, i guess i might've calculated my A value wrong then.

this is what i got.

R = 2 Vo^2 sin (theta) cos (theta) / gelec

R = 1.27 x 10^-3
gelec = |Felec| / mass = |qfield x E| / m
= (1.6 x 10^-19)(720) / 1.67 x 10^-27
= 6.898 x 10^10
Vo = 9550

sin (theta) cos (theta) = (R x g elec) / 2Vo^2
= 0.48
= A
 
I used the electron mass. Sorry. You are right. I get ~37 and 53 deg.s now and t = 0.22 micro secs.
 

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