How Do Quantum Harmonic Oscillator Ladder Operators Affect State Vectors?

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The discussion revolves around the quantum harmonic oscillator and the calculation of specific matrix elements involving ladder operators and state vectors. The original poster presents a problem that includes evaluating expressions such as \(\left \langle n \right | a \left | n \right \rangle\) and \(\left \langle n \right | a^\dagger \left | n \right \rangle\), among others, within the context of quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the evaluation of the matrix elements and the implications of orthogonality of eigenvectors. There is an exploration of whether the values calculated are zero due to the properties of eigenvectors associated with different eigenvalues.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of the eigenvectors and their orthogonality. Some participants suggest that the values in question may all be zero based on these properties, while others are still working through the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the original poster's uncertainty in continuing the calculations, and the discussion includes references to the properties of Hermitian operators and their eigenvectors.

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Homework Statement


Given a quantum harmonic oscillator, calculate the following values:
\left \langle n \right | a \left | n \right \rangle, \left \langle n \right | a^\dagger \left | n \right \rangle, \left \langle n \right | X \left | n \right \rangle, \left \langle n \right | P \left | n \right \rangle


Homework Equations


Hamiltonian: H=\frac{P^2}{2m}+\frac{1}{2}m\omega^2X^2
Ladder operators:
a=\sqrt{\frac{m\omega}{2\hbar}}\left ( X + \frac{i}{m\omega}P \right )
a^\dagger=\sqrt{\frac{m\omega}{2\hbar}}\left(X-\frac{i}{m\omega}P \right )
\left [ a,a^\dagger \right ] = 1
\left [ a^\dagger a,a \right ] = -a
N operator:
N=a^\dagger a
N\left | n \right \rangle = n\left | n \right \rangle
a^\dagger \left | n \right \rangle = \sqrt{n+1} \left | n+1 \right \rangle
a \left | n \right \rangle = \sqrt{n} \left | n-1 \right \rangle
\left | n \right \rangle = \frac{(a^\dagger)^n}{\sqrt{n!}} \left | 0 \right \rangle


The Attempt at a Solution


\left \langle n \right | a \left | n \right \rangle = \left \langle n \right | \sqrt{n} \left | n-1 \right \rangle = <br /> \sqrt{n} \left \langle n | n-1 \right \rangle = <br /> \sqrt{n} \left ( \left | n \right \rangle \right ) ^ \dagger \left | n-1 \right \rangle = <br /> \sqrt{n} \left ( \frac{(a^\dagger)^n}{\sqrt{n!}} \left | 0 \right \rangle \right ) ^ \dagger \frac{(a^\dagger)^{n-1}}{\sqrt{(n-1)!}} \left | 0 \right \rangle = <br /> \sqrt{\frac{n}{n!(n-1)!}} \left \langle 0 \right | a^n (a^\dagger)^{n-1} \left | 0 \right \rangle

Not sure how to continue from here...
 
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glederfein said:

The Attempt at a Solution


\left \langle n \right | a \left | n \right \rangle = \left \langle n \right | \sqrt{n} \left | n-1 \right \rangle = <br /> \sqrt{n} \left \langle n | n-1 \right \rangle = <br /> \sqrt{n} \left ( \left | n \right \rangle \right ) ^ \dagger \left | n-1 \right \rangle = <br /> \sqrt{n} \left ( \frac{(a^\dagger)^n}{\sqrt{n!}} \left | 0 \right \rangle \right ) ^ \dagger \frac{(a^\dagger)^{n-1}}{\sqrt{(n-1)!}} \left | 0 \right \rangle = <br /> \sqrt{\frac{n}{n!(n-1)!}} \left \langle 0 \right | a^n (a^\dagger)^{n-1} \left | 0 \right \rangle
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When you get to \left \langle n \right | a \left | n \right \rangle = \left \langle n \right | \sqrt{n} \left | n-1 \right \rangle = <br /> \sqrt{n} \left \langle n | n-1 \right \rangle you should be able to see the answer.
 
TSny said:
When you get to \left \langle n \right | a \left | n \right \rangle = \left \langle n \right | \sqrt{n} \left | n-1 \right \rangle = <br /> \sqrt{n} \left \langle n | n-1 \right \rangle you should be able to see the answer.

Is the answer zero because eigenvectors are always perpendicular to one another?
Doesn't that mean that all the four values in the question are zero?
 
Yes, eigenvectors of a Hermitian operator that correspond to different eigenvalues are orthogonal.

And, yes, all 4 are zero :smile:
 

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