How Do Shadows and Sun Angles Relate to Tree Height?

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This discussion revolves around the relationship between shadows and sun angles in determining the height of a tree and the length of its shadow under different sun angles. It includes mathematical reasoning and potential corrections regarding the calculations involved.

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  • One participant calculates the height of the tree using the tangent function based on the angle of elevation and the length of the shadow, arriving at a height of 29 feet.
  • Another participant points out a potential error in the use of the tangent function, suggesting that the correct relationship should involve the shadow length of 23 feet instead of 52 feet.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of rounding intermediate results, with one participant cautioning that using a rounded height in subsequent calculations may lead to inaccuracies in the final shadow length.
  • Participants express gratitude for corrections regarding typos and emphasize the importance of accuracy in mathematical calculations.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of rounding intermediate results, with some agreeing that it can lead to inaccuracies, while others focus on the correctness of the initial calculations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to rounding in this context.

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There are unresolved issues regarding the correct application of the tangent function and the implications of rounding intermediate results on final calculations.

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A tree casts a 23-foot shadow when the angle of elevation of the sun is 52 degrees.

(A) Find the height of the tree.

(B) Find the length of the shadow when the angle of elevation of the sun is 38 degrees.Part (A)

Let h = height of tree

tan(52°) = h/52

tan(52°)(23) = h

29.4386575404 = h

Rounding off to the nearest ones place, I get 29 feet.

The tree is 29 feet.

Part (B)

Let s = length of shadow

tan(38°) = 29/s

s = 29/tan(38°)

s = 37.1183073336

After rounding to the nearest unit, I get 37 feet.

The shadow is 37 feet.

Is this right?
 
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xyz_1965 said:
A tree casts a 23-foot shadow when the angle of elevation of the sun is 52 degrees.

(A) Find the height of the tree.

(B) Find the length of the shadow when the angle of elevation of the sun is 38 degrees.Part (A)

Let h = height of tree.

tan(52°) = h/52

$\color{red} \tan(52) =h/23$

tan(52°)(23) = h

29.4386575404 = h

Rounding off to the nearest ones place, I get 29 feet.

The tree is 29 feet.

Part (B)

Let s = length of shadow

tan(38°) = 29/s

$\color{red} \text{I wouldn’t use the rounded value of the height in subsequent calculations. Final shadow length is closer to 38 ft}$
s = 29/tan(38°)

s = 37.1183073336

After rounding to the nearest unit, I get 37 feet.

The shadow is 37 feet.

Is this right?

see above $\color{red}\text{comments}$ in the quote.
 
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skeeter said:
see above $\color{red}\text{comments}$ in the quote.

Thank you for correcting my typos.
 
xyz_1965 said:
Thank you for correcting my typos.
It is fine to round a final result, but using a rounded intermediate result for more calculations (in part B) is a bit more serious than a typo. It means that the final result of B will be "off".
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
It is fine to round a final result, but using a rounded intermediate result for more calculations (in part B) is a bit more serious than a typo. It means that the final result of B will be "off".

I'll try to be careful in my rounding off.
 

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