How Do Social and Economic Factors Influence Fertility Forecasts?

[momentum]

Sam and Frank founded an organic plastic company, and it is now the largest employer in the county

in second we had ..

Sam and Frank founded an organic plastic company which is now the largest employer in
the county.

Both are correct now I believe... btw, I love the second one though ...because i just get a feel for it :) .. what the native will pick ?

 

[tiny-tim]

", who …"

john, who passed the test, was elated.

john who passed the test was elated.

John, presumably,is an identified person.

A better question would be …
The student, who passed the test, was elated.

The student who passed the test was elated.

The first one assumes you were always talking about only one student … that is the student you are still talking about … he passed the test, he was elated.

The second one assumes you were talking about many students, but only one of them passed the test … that is the student you have now selected to talk about … he was elated.

 

[momentum]

John, presumably,is an identified person.

A better question would be …
The student, who passed the test, was elated.

The student who passed the test was elated.

The first one assumes you were always talking about only one student … that is the student you are still talking about … he passed the test, he was elated.

The second one assumes you were talking about many students, but only one of them passed the test … that is the student you have now selected to talk about … he was elated.

you almost killed me!

I can't chase such granular level difference !

 

[DaveC426913]

you almost killed me!

such granular level difference !

It would make more sense in context. Presumably this sentence is part of a paragraph.

A student's parents decided to see how the educational system was faring, so they took the test along with the student. Too bad they failed. The student, who passed the test, was elated.
versus
That prof is a particularly hard marker, he likes to fail most of his students. In this case, all but one failed. The student who passed the test was elated.

In the former case the student is the subject.
In the latter case the student-who-passed-the-test is the subject.


Actually, this is wrong. Corrected:

That prof is a particularly hard marker, he likes to fail most of his students. In this case, all but one failed. The student that passed the test was elated.

 

[momentum]

Please see this English text ...

Healthy-Oh’s breakfast cereal is one-of-kinda good for you! Among breakfast cereals,
only Healthy-Oh’s has five grams of psyllium fiber. Psyllium fiber is good for your heart and helps you to lose weight. Doctors and nutritionists recommend at least twenty grams of fiber per day, so why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber the easy way with Healthy-Oh’s cereal?


I don't get the connection of saying why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber ? what is so special about 25% ?

I don't get this part straight.

 

[Evo]

Please see this English text ...

Healthy-Oh’s breakfast cereal is one-of-kinda good for you! Among breakfast cereals,
only Healthy-Oh’s has five grams of psyllium fiber. Psyllium fiber is good for your heart and helps you to lose weight. Doctors and nutritionists recommend at least twenty grams of fiber per day, so why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber the easy way with Healthy-Oh’s cereal?


I don't get the connection of saying why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber ? what is so special about 25% ?

I don't get this part straight.

They're telling people that they can get 1/4th of their daily fiber with one serving. Most Americans will probably eat 2-4 servings in one bowl/meal (Americans don't usually strictly measure a single portion). So 25% in a single portion size is significant.

 

[DaveC426913]

Please see this English text ...

Healthy-Oh’s breakfast cereal is one-of-kinda good for you! Among breakfast cereals,
only Healthy-Oh’s has five grams of psyllium fiber. Psyllium fiber is good for your heart and helps you to lose weight. Doctors and nutritionists recommend at least twenty grams of fiber per day, so why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber the easy way with Healthy-Oh’s cereal?


I don't get the connection of saying why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber ? what is so special about 25% ?

I don't get this part straight.

1] Advertizing copy is a whole world unto itself.

2] What is special about 25% is that 25% is all they can offer.

3] It is not easy to get adequate fibre in your diet. Most foods have, at best, 1 or 2 grams of fibre per serving. To get 100% of your daily recommended requirement (25-35g) without blowing out your calorie intake, you'll need to be judicious about what you eat. This cereal will get you a significant way (1/4 of the way) to the goal. That's pretty good, and well-worth noting.

 

[momentum]

They're telling people that they can get 1/4th of their daily fiber with one serving. Most Americans will probably eat 2-4 servings in one bowl/meal (Americans don't usually strictly measure a single portion). So 25% in a single portion size is significant.

Not clear.

Let me tell why I'm finding difficulty ... is not there some maths involved here ?
they say "Among breakfast cereals, only Healthy-Oh’s has five grams of psyllium fiber."

is it from one serve/ plate ?


they say , Doctors and nutritionists recommend at least twenty grams of fiber per day

Ok...so, if the above is true then in order to get 20 gms fiber , we need 20/5 = 4 serves/plates.


they say , so why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber the easy way with Healthy-Oh’s cereal?

how this 'twenty-five percent of your fiber' connected here ?

 

[Evo]

Not clear.

Let me tell why I'm finding difficulty ... is not there some maths involved here ?
they say "Among breakfast cereals, only Healthy-Oh’s has five grams of psyllium fiber."

is it from one serve/ plate ?


they say , Doctors and nutritionists recommend at least twenty grams of fiber per day

Ok...so, if the above is true then in order to get 20 gms fiber , we need 20/5 = 4 serves/plates.


they say , so why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber the easy way with Healthy-Oh’s cereal?

how this 'twenty-five percent of your fiber' connected here ?

5 gms is 25% of 20 gms.

 

[DaveC426913]

Let me tell why I'm finding difficulty ... is not there some maths involved here ?

OK, is your confusion still about the meaning of the text? Or is it about the math?

 

[momentum]

5 gms is 25% of 20 gms.

GREAT . I got the connection now . Its clear . happy .

thanks for the time.

 

[momentum]

OK, is your confusion still about the meaning of the text? Or is it about the math?

meaning of the text been complicated by the math :)
Now, I have caught it . for a moment i could not understand why they are saying 25% ..the catch was 5 gms is 25% of 20 gms . Its just alternate way of saying :)

Its like , I'll come after 1 minute OR I'll come after 60 seconds .

Anyway, things are pretty clear ...feeling comfort ...thanks for your time

 

[momentum]

interest rate increase was announced today, and along with the continued robust housing sales, this seems to indicate that the housing market remains strong.

I have no idea what's the relation with interest rate vs housing sale ?

If the housing Loan interest rate increases , does the housing sale really increases ? is it ?
I am not sure what they are trying to say .

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

interest rate increase was announced today, and along with the continued robust housing sales, this seems to indicate that the housing market remains strong.

I have no idea what's the relation with interest rate vs housing sale ?

If the housing Loan interest rate increases , does the housing sale really increases ? is it ?
I am not sure what they are trying to say .

There may be something more in the context that I am missing but it seems to me to be saying that house sales are steady (or increasing?) despite an increase in loan interest rates. I believe that house sales would normally decrease in response to higher interest rates but the market is apparently strong enough that it does not seem to have been effected by the increase.

 

[momentum]

but the market is apparently strong enough that it does not seem to have been effected by the increase.

not clear.

what do you mean by 'strong enough' ? can you please explain this part ?

why its not effected ? what type of situation you are referring ? any example ?

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

not clear.

what do you mean by 'strong enough' ? can you please explain this part ?

why its not effected ? what type of situation you are referring ? any example ?

Sorry, I am not particularly knowledgeable of the mortgage industry so I am unsure how to illustrate with a specific example.

What I am seeing as the meaning is that people are still buying houses, there is demand, even though the cost of purchasing a house has increased due to the increase in interest rates. So one might see this as an indicator that the housing market is doing well, apparently so well that buyers are not deterred by increased cost.

 

[f95toli]

I hope you don't mind if I borrow your thread momentum, but since I too have a language question I figured this is the best place for it.

I am trying to write something where I need to be a bit witty

Does something like this make sense?

People tell me that they value my opinions highly, perhaps they mean that I should be less generous with such a valuable commodity...

This is not the exact phrase I was planning to use, but my question is if it is OK to use "valuable commodity" to refer (as part of a joke) to "highly valued opinion"?

And yes, I do realize that it is not a very funny joke.

 

[DaveC426913]

Does something like this make sense?

People tell me that they value my opinions highly, perhaps they mean that I should be less generous with such a valuable commodity...

This is not the exact phrase I was planning to use, but my question is if it is OK to use "valuable commodity" to refer (as part of a joke) to "highly valued opinion"?

Makes perfect sense to me.

 

[Evo]

I hope you don't mind if I borrow your thread momentum, but since I too have a language question I figured this is the best place for it.

I am trying to write something where I need to be a bit witty

Does something like this make sense?

People tell me that they value my opinions highly, perhaps they mean that I should be less generous with such a valuable commodity...

This is not the exact phrase I was planning to use, but my question is if it is OK to use "valuable commodity" to refer (as part of a joke) to "highly valued opinion"?

And yes, I do realize that it is not a very funny joke.

In America a 'commodity' has come to mean something which is widespread in use, but of little value.

So "valuable commodity" would be humorous, although not really what you mean or would be a fair evaluation.

 

[DaveC426913]

In America a 'commodity' has come to mean something which is widespread in use, but of little value.

So "valuable commodity" would be humorous, although not really what you mean or would be a fair evaluation.

That's a slightly more cynical definition than I am used to. Commodity to me usually just means something that can be bought, sold or traded. No real negative spin.

Water is a valuable commodity in Vegas.
Since grocery stores have put a 5c surcharge on grocery bags, our supplies have dwindled, and now plastic bags have become a valuable commodity.

Then again, there is a cynical element to buying, selling or trading human skills and traits...

 

[Evo]

For example, I am in data networking, once considered high tech and valuable, now it is considered a commodity to be shopped around for the lowest price.

M-W Dictionary

c : a mass-produced unspecialized product

4 : a good or service whose wide availability typically leads to smaller profit margins and diminishes the importance of factors (as brand name) other than price
5 : one that is subject to ready exchange or exploitation within a market

In America a commodity means something which has little value.

 

[DaveC426913]

For example, I am in data networking, once considered high tech and valuable, now it is considered a commodity to be shopped around for the lowest price.

M-W Dictionary

c : a mass-produced unspecialized product

4 : a good or service whose wide availability typically leads to smaller profit margins and diminishes the importance of factors (as brand name) other than price
5 : one that is subject to ready exchange or exploitation within a market

In America a commodity means something which has little value.

Yes. My thoughts too, but:

I guess it was the "of little value" that I balked at.

 

[tiny-tim]

valuable?

Oscar Wilde:

"A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing" ​

 

[momentum]

please see this text ...

Plant injury resulting from high light intensity is due not to the light per se but to an excess of
light energy over that utilized by photosynthesis

see the wording "light per se" . what is "se" ? does "se" = second ?
I doubt though . Can anyone explain this wording.

 

[tiny-tim]

per se

hi momentum!

(hmm … since you have a Latin name, I thought you could speak Latin! )

"per se" is one of those Latin phrases which are used fairly regularly in English.

A literal translation is "through itself" (per = through, se = himself/itself).

In practice, it means "by itself" or "in itself" or "by its very nature".

In your example, it means that light is not naturally damaging, it is damaging only if there is too much.

(for other Latin phrases used in English, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_se_(phrase)" )

 

[momentum]

hi momentum!

(hmm … since you have a Latin name, I thought you could speak Latin! )

"per se" is one of those Latin phrases which are used fairly regularly in English.

A literal translation is "through itself" (per = through, se = himself/itself).

In practice, it means "by itself" or "in itself" or "by its very nature".

In your example, it means that light is not naturally damaging, it is damaging only if there is too much.

(for other Latin phrases used in English, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_se_(phrase)" )

Aaah ...so simple , cute explanation . It was beautiful. very much helpful. Thanks for your time.

 

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[momentum]

please look at this English text...

At the signing book people can buy the book, have it signed by a stand-in, and even buy more financial advice.

what does 'stand-in' means ?

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

please look at this English text...

At the signing book people can buy the book, have it signed by a stand-in, and even buy more financial advice.

what does 'stand-in' means ?

"Stand-in" usually means a person who shows up in place of another person. This person stands in the role of the original person. In this case it would seem that someone would be signing the book in place of the author though I have never heard of such a thing with regard to book signings. Perhaps I am missing something from the context.

 

[momentum]

"Stand-in" usually means a person who shows up in place of another person. This person stands in the role of the original person. In this case it would seem that someone would be signing the book in place of the author though I have never heard of such a thing with regard to book signings. Perhaps I am missing something from the context.

thanks ...that helped me a lot.

 

[lisab]

please look at this English text...

At the signing book people can buy the book, have it signed by a stand-in, and even buy more financial advice.

what does 'stand-in' means ?

"Stand-in" means "substitute".

The sentence may be taken out of context, but from what I can tell it means you can buy a book that is signed by someone who is not the writer.

As far as buying financial advice...I'll give some for fee. Never pay extra for a book that is signed by the author, and never, ever pay extra for a book that is signed by a stand-in.


If you buy the book, momentum, I'll sign it for free .

 

[DaveC426913]

As far as buying financial advice...I'll give some for fee.

I know this is a typo, but it is a typo with sweet irony, don't you agree?

 

[lisab]

I know this is a typo, but it is a typo with sweet irony, don't you agree?

...ahahhaah...Lol!

 

[momentum]

please see some text ...

Winners Adam Ovariano and his wife Teresa hired professionals to asymmetrically mount the
massive painting onto the mantle above their fireplace.

what is "asymmetrically mount" ? I am not clear with this text . Need help on this. Can you please explain this ?

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

please see some text ...

Winners Adam Ovariano and his wife Teresa hired professionals to asymmetrically mount the
massive painting onto the mantle above their fireplace.

what is "asymmetrically mount" ? I am not clear with this text . Need help on this. Can you please explain this ?

Its an interesting wording. I am unsure of what exactly it would mean. "Asymmetrical" roughly means "uneven" or the opposite of "symmetrical". "Mount" in this case seems to mean that they were hanging the painting, or fixing it to the wall. I am under the impression that something about the construction of the wall prevented them from using standard mounting brackets, which would normally be fixed to the wall on the studs in a symmetrical pattern to evenly distribute the weight of the painting.

It is also possible that the painting is meant to be displayed in an asymmetrical fashion such as a painting consisting of multiple canvases or panels that are to be placed at differing heights.
An example...

 

[momentum]

very nice. Thanks for your post. Thanks for your time.

 

[Evo]

very nice. Thanks for your post. Thanks for your time.

Momentum, you seem to be reading bad books, and poorly translated ones.

 

[momentum]

please see some text ...

CapitalYay feels that the decrease in the size of technological items is only a sign of the growing population.


Can you please explain the meaning of 'decrease in the size of technological items'

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

please see some text ...

CapitalYay feels that the decrease in the size of technological items is only a sign of the growing population.


Can you please explain the meaning of 'decrease in the size of technological items'

I believe it means the actual physical size of any particular electronic device. Such as smaller cellphones, mp3 players, laptops, ect which is a definite trend in some places. My mp3 player is about the size of a book of matches.

 

[lisab]

I believe it means the actual physical size of any particular electronic device. Such as smaller cellphones, mp3 players, laptops, ect which is a definite trend in some places. My mp3 player is about the size of a book of matches.

That's what I thought too, but I can't figure out why shrinking electronics is "only a sign of the growing population". The fact that I don't want my cell phone to be the size of a brick has nothing to do with population .

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

That's what I thought too, but I can't figure out why shrinking electronics is "only a sign of the growing population". The fact that I don't want my cell phone to be the size of a brick has nothing to do with population .

Yeah, I had trouble with the idea behind the statement too. Didn't really want to side track into a discussion on that though.

 

[momentum]

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[momentum]

please look at this English text...


To develop more accurate population forecasts, demographers would have to know a great deal more than now about the social and economical detriments of fertility.
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what does this word means "social and economical detriments of fertility" ?

I understand individual words though but when it combined what does it mean ? what detriments ? I don't understand this...Could you please elaborate this part ?

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

please look at this English text...


To develop more accurate population forecasts, demographers would have to know a great deal more than now about the social and economical detriments of fertility.
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what does this word means "social and economical detriments of fertility" ?

I understand individual words though but when it combined what does it mean ? what detriments ? I don't understand this...Could you please elaborate this part ?

Its an interesting choice of words. I am under the impression they are referring to "the social and economic detriment" of having many children.

 

[momentum]

Its an interesting choice of words. I am under the impression they are referring to "the social and economic detriment" of having many children.

detriment = damage.


population forecast ---->demographer have to know ---->social and economic detriment damage.

I don't get the connection here.

what the demographer have to know social and economic detriment damage to forecast a population ? is it really an important parameter ? is it used in other countries ?

Could you please throw some light on this part ?

 

[DaveC426913]

detriment = damage.

No.
Detriment = disadvantage


examples:
"Increased financial stress is one of the detriments of a larger family size."
"We are already in dire straits financially, we can have more children, but to our detriment."

 

[momentum]

I'm still not clear . how it is connected here.

 

[lisab]

please look at this English text...


To develop more accurate population forecasts, demographers would have to know a great deal more than now about the social and economical detriments of fertility.
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what does this word means "social and economical detriments of fertility" ?

I understand individual words though but when it combined what does it mean ? what detriments ? I don't understand this...Could you please elaborate this part ?

Well it's not clear what they mean. If I had to guess, I think what they were trying to say is:

To develop more accurate population forecasts, demographers would have to know a great deal more than now about the social and economical effects on fertility.

 

[DaveC426913]

Further corrected, IMO:

To develop more accurate population forecasts, demographers would have to know a great deal more than now about the negative social and economical effects on fertility.