How Do Social and Economic Factors Influence Fertility Forecasts?

[tiny-tim]

log

Log (or log-book) is the book kept by the captain of a ship, recording everything that happens, and in particular speed, compass direction, wind direction, weather, and other ships nearby.

If there is a trial, the log is produced as evidence. If there is no log, that counts against the person who should have kept it.

So log is also the name of any record which the law requires you to keep … in this case, a record of mileage (ie, the number of miles traveled on each journey).

 

[momentum]

Here they used as 'for mileage on their tax returns'.

also 'auditors expect to see is a mileage log.'

it does not look like any record trip now.

 

[Evo]

Here they used as 'for mileage on their tax returns'.

also 'auditors expect to see is a mileage log.'

it does not look like any record trip now.

It is a record of a trip as I described above. I've had to keep mileage logs for my job for over 20 years.

 

[momentum]

Oh...Ok ... I got it now .

 

[momentum]

Please see this text...

Diseases that quickly kill more than 75 percent of their infected hosts usually die off with their host’s extinction.

I am not able to conceptualize this. Can you give some example to get this point . my troubled area is "die off with their host’s extinction" .

an example will be better to grasp this . I am not getting the connection properly.

any comments ?

 

[lisab]

Please see this text...

Diseases that quickly kill more than 75 percent of their infected hosts usually die off with their host’s extinction.

I am not able to conceptualize this. Can you give some example to get this point . my troubled area is "die off with their host’s extinction" .

an example will be better to grasp this . I am not getting the connection properly.

any comments ?

That doesn't sound like it was written by a native speaker...just a hunch. But I think I understand what the writer is trying to say.

I think it means: if a disease kills its victims too quickly, then there will not be enough time for it to spread it to new victims. The outbreak will die out quickly, in that case.

 

[DaveC426913]

I think it means: if a disease kills its victims too quickly, then there will not be enough time for it to spread it to new victims. The outbreak will die out quickly, in that case.

It would help to have a little more context in the quote, so we can tell why the author has stated it, and thus tell his meaning.

That being said, I agree with lisab's interpretation.

Diseases that do not immediately kill their hosts (and thus themelves shortly thereafter) will tend to be selected-for. A disease that kills its host too quickly will not have much change to propogate.

BTW, the "diseases" in this context are limited to living invaders: bacteria, parasites, virii. Diabetes and cancer are diseases too, but they are not alive and so can not modify their behaviours to affect their hosts.

 

[momentum]

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[momentum]

do they differ in meaning ?

john, who passed the test, was elated.john who passed the test was elated.


see , I just removed commas in the second . I probably have seen this kind of usage in newspaper. do they differ in meaning ?

 

[DaveC426913]

do they differ in meaning ?

john, who passed the test, was elated.


john who passed the test was elated.


see , I just removed commas in the second . I probably have seen this kind of usage in newspaper. do they differ in meaning ?

The former is correct grammar. Dropping commas can be bad, often resulting in ambiguity or misrepresentation (in the same vein as the famous "Eats Shoots and Leaves") but I can't see any subject/object ambiguity that creeps in in the latter. Though it does read a bit awkward.

Verdict: you should stick to the former, though I can't cite you for an offense for the latter.

 

[momentum]

The former is correct grammar. Dropping commas can be bad, often resulting in ambiguity or misrepresentation (in the same vein as the famous "Eats Shoots and Leaves") but I can't see any subject/object ambiguity that creeps in in the latter. Though it does read a bit awkward.

Verdict: you should stick to the former, though I can't cite you for an offense for the latter.

Ok ..thanks ...glad to know this info.

 

[DaveC426913]

Ok ..thanks ...glad to know this info.

Do you know the story of the Panda that walks into a restaurant with a loaded gun?

 

[momentum]

Do you know the story of the Panda that walks into a restaurant with a loaded gun?

No...why ?

 

[DaveC426913]

A panda walks into a restaurant, sits down and orders a sandwich. He eats the sandwich, pulls out a gun, and shoots the waiter dead.

As the panda stands up to leave, the manager shouts, “Hey! Where are you going? You just shot my waiter and you didn’t pay for your sandwich!”

The panda yells back at the manager, “Hey man, I’m a PANDA! Look it up!”

The manager opens his dictionary and sees the following definition for panda: “A tree dwelling marsupial of Asian origin, characterized by distinct black and white coloring. Eats shoots and leaves.”

 

[momentum]

ha ha ha ...good stuff

 

[momentum]

Here I am writing a English in two ways ..

Sam and Frank founded an organic plastic company, and they are now the largest
employers in the county.
Sam and Frank founded an organic plastic company which is now the largest employer in
the county.


are these correct ? I experimented this way just to know whether I can use 'employer' to persons as well as for a company . In first place I used for persons and in second place its for a company .

comments please.

 

[lisab]

Here I am writing a English in two ways ..

Sam and Frank founded an organic plastic company, and they are now the largest
employers in the county.


Sam and Frank founded an organic plastic company which is now the largest employer in
the county.

are these correct ? I experimented this way just to know whether I can use 'employer' to persons as well as for a company . In first place I used for persons and in second place its for a company .

comments please.

In the first sentence, change "employers" to "employer": "they are the largest employer".

Btw, what exactly is an organic plastic company...is that like free-range plastic ?

 

[DaveC426913]

In the first sentence, change "employers" to "employer": "they are the largest employer".

I'm not sure I agree.

 

[lisab]

I'm not sure I agree.

Hmm...now that I think about it, I would change it to:

Sam and Frank founded an organic plastic company, and it is now the largest employer in the county.

 

[momentum]

I'm not sure I agree.

just would like to know ...why ? want to listen your voice.

In fact , me too was not happy ...my reason was "they" is a plural ...so expecting "employers" instead of "employer".

 

[momentum]

Sam and Frank founded an organic plastic company, and it is now the largest employer in the county

in second we had ..

Sam and Frank founded an organic plastic company which is now the largest employer in
the county.

Both are correct now I believe... btw, I love the second one though ...because i just get a feel for it :) .. what the native will pick ?

 

[tiny-tim]

", who …"

john, who passed the test, was elated.

john who passed the test was elated.

John, presumably,is an identified person.

A better question would be …
The student, who passed the test, was elated.

The student who passed the test was elated.

The first one assumes you were always talking about only one student … that is the student you are still talking about … he passed the test, he was elated.

The second one assumes you were talking about many students, but only one of them passed the test … that is the student you have now selected to talk about … he was elated.

 

[momentum]

John, presumably,is an identified person.

A better question would be …
The student, who passed the test, was elated.

The student who passed the test was elated.

The first one assumes you were always talking about only one student … that is the student you are still talking about … he passed the test, he was elated.

The second one assumes you were talking about many students, but only one of them passed the test … that is the student you have now selected to talk about … he was elated.

you almost killed me!

I can't chase such granular level difference !

 

[DaveC426913]

you almost killed me!

such granular level difference !

It would make more sense in context. Presumably this sentence is part of a paragraph.

A student's parents decided to see how the educational system was faring, so they took the test along with the student. Too bad they failed. The student, who passed the test, was elated.
versus
That prof is a particularly hard marker, he likes to fail most of his students. In this case, all but one failed. The student who passed the test was elated.

In the former case the student is the subject.
In the latter case the student-who-passed-the-test is the subject.


Actually, this is wrong. Corrected:

That prof is a particularly hard marker, he likes to fail most of his students. In this case, all but one failed. The student that passed the test was elated.

 

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Please see this English text ...

Healthy-Oh’s breakfast cereal is one-of-kinda good for you! Among breakfast cereals,
only Healthy-Oh’s has five grams of psyllium fiber. Psyllium fiber is good for your heart and helps you to lose weight. Doctors and nutritionists recommend at least twenty grams of fiber per day, so why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber the easy way with Healthy-Oh’s cereal?


I don't get the connection of saying why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber ? what is so special about 25% ?

I don't get this part straight.

 

[Evo]

Please see this English text ...

Healthy-Oh’s breakfast cereal is one-of-kinda good for you! Among breakfast cereals,
only Healthy-Oh’s has five grams of psyllium fiber. Psyllium fiber is good for your heart and helps you to lose weight. Doctors and nutritionists recommend at least twenty grams of fiber per day, so why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber the easy way with Healthy-Oh’s cereal?


I don't get the connection of saying why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber ? what is so special about 25% ?

I don't get this part straight.

They're telling people that they can get 1/4th of their daily fiber with one serving. Most Americans will probably eat 2-4 servings in one bowl/meal (Americans don't usually strictly measure a single portion). So 25% in a single portion size is significant.

 

[DaveC426913]

Please see this English text ...

Healthy-Oh’s breakfast cereal is one-of-kinda good for you! Among breakfast cereals,
only Healthy-Oh’s has five grams of psyllium fiber. Psyllium fiber is good for your heart and helps you to lose weight. Doctors and nutritionists recommend at least twenty grams of fiber per day, so why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber the easy way with Healthy-Oh’s cereal?


I don't get the connection of saying why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber ? what is so special about 25% ?

I don't get this part straight.

1] Advertizing copy is a whole world unto itself.

2] What is special about 25% is that 25% is all they can offer.

3] It is not easy to get adequate fibre in your diet. Most foods have, at best, 1 or 2 grams of fibre per serving. To get 100% of your daily recommended requirement (25-35g) without blowing out your calorie intake, you'll need to be judicious about what you eat. This cereal will get you a significant way (1/4 of the way) to the goal. That's pretty good, and well-worth noting.

 

[momentum]

They're telling people that they can get 1/4th of their daily fiber with one serving. Most Americans will probably eat 2-4 servings in one bowl/meal (Americans don't usually strictly measure a single portion). So 25% in a single portion size is significant.

Not clear.

Let me tell why I'm finding difficulty ... is not there some maths involved here ?
they say "Among breakfast cereals, only Healthy-Oh’s has five grams of psyllium fiber."

is it from one serve/ plate ?


they say , Doctors and nutritionists recommend at least twenty grams of fiber per day

Ok...so, if the above is true then in order to get 20 gms fiber , we need 20/5 = 4 serves/plates.


they say , so why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber the easy way with Healthy-Oh’s cereal?

how this 'twenty-five percent of your fiber' connected here ?

 

[Evo]

Not clear.

Let me tell why I'm finding difficulty ... is not there some maths involved here ?
they say "Among breakfast cereals, only Healthy-Oh’s has five grams of psyllium fiber."

is it from one serve/ plate ?


they say , Doctors and nutritionists recommend at least twenty grams of fiber per day

Ok...so, if the above is true then in order to get 20 gms fiber , we need 20/5 = 4 serves/plates.


they say , so why not get twenty-five percent of your fiber the easy way with Healthy-Oh’s cereal?

how this 'twenty-five percent of your fiber' connected here ?

5 gms is 25% of 20 gms.

 

[DaveC426913]

Let me tell why I'm finding difficulty ... is not there some maths involved here ?

OK, is your confusion still about the meaning of the text? Or is it about the math?