How Do You Calculate the Couple in a Force-Couple System at Point O?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the equivalent force-couple system at point O for a given set of three forces. Participants are attempting to understand how to determine the couple and the appropriate distances to use in their calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are discussing the calculation of the resultant force and the subsequent determination of the couple. There are questions about the correct distances to use and how to apply them in the context of the moment about point O.

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Some participants have made progress in finding the resultant force but express confusion regarding the calculation of the couple. There is an ongoing exploration of how to sum moments and the significance of directionality in these calculations. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider the moments of each force component about the origin.

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Participants are working with an image that contains the forces in question, which is not available in the text. There is a focus on ensuring correct application of signs in moment calculations, as well as the need for clarity on the distances involved in the couple.

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Homework Statement



I've attached an image. The question states:

Replace the three forces shown, with an equivalent force-couple system at point O(origin).

I've got a little ways, but I am stuck at the couple. I don't know how to use the distance in the couple. Need to know what distance to use, and from where.

Homework Equations



R = Fx + Fy

C = Mo = ra/o x Fa + rb/o x Fb + rc/o x Fc(is this correct, or do I use x and y?)---this is the part where I'm stuck.

magnitude C = sqrt(Cx^2 + Cy^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



Fx = 200cos60 + 300cos45 + 250cos30 = 528.6 i

Fy = 200sin60 + 300sin45 - 250sin30 = 260.3 j

R = 528.6 i + 260.3 j

C = Mo = ?

Am I correct up to this point too?

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Bradracer18 said:

Homework Statement



I've attached an image. The question states:

Replace the three forces shown, with an equivalent force-couple system at point O(origin).

I've got a little ways, but I am stuck at the couple. I don't know how to use the distance in the couple. Need to know what distance to use, and from where.

Formally, you should first find the resultant of the three forces. To find the couple, you first have to find the moment caused by the resultant force at point O, and then replace that moment with an equivalent couple.
 
Ok, I did find the resultant(R).

And, to find the couple, don't I just find the moment(at the origin)?

Here goes...but this is where I get confused.

528.6(9) + 260.3(30)...i have no clue, I know this isn't right.

Any way you could show me like part of how to do it? So I get the concept?
 
Bradracer18 said:
Ok, I did find the resultant(R).

And, to find the couple, don't I just find the moment(at the origin)?

Here goes...but this is where I get confused.

528.6(9) + 260.3(30)...i have no clue, I know this isn't right.

Any way you could show me like part of how to do it? So I get the concept?
you've got the correct components of the resultant force at the origin. But now you must sum moments of each horizontal component of each force about the origin, and sum moments of each vertical component of each force about the origin, and add them together to get the couple about the origin. Watch your plus and minus signs (clockwise vs. counterclockwise).
 

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