How Do You Calculate the Moment in a Force-Couple System at a Pivot Point?

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The problem involves calculating the moment in a force-couple system at a pivot point, specifically related to a force applied to an automobile parking-brake lever. The original poster describes the setup, including the force magnitude and its application point, and seeks to express this as an equivalent system at the pivot point.

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  • Participants discuss the correct method to determine the distance needed for calculating the moment, questioning the definition of the "moment-point" and the appropriate distances involved. There is an exploration of extending lines to find the necessary distances and clarifications on the relationship between the force and its line of action.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to visualize the problem and suggesting methods to find the required distances. There is an exchange of ideas regarding the geometric relationships involved, but no consensus has been reached yet.

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Homework Statement


A force F of magnitude 50 N is exerted on the automobile parking-brake lever at the position x=250 mm. Replace the force by an equivalent force-couple system at the pivot point O.

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Homework Equations



M=F*d

The Attempt at a Solution



I have replaced the force by an equivalent force-system at O so I now the exact same force F(both magnitude and direction) but at O. Now I want to find the moment which is given by M=Force*distance. The distance I need is the closest distance between O and the "moment-point". For simplicity I instead try to find the distance between O and Fcos20. But I have problems finding it.
 
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hi zeralda21! :smile:
zeralda21 said:
The distance I need is the closest distance between O and the "moment-point".

no, it's the closest distance between O and the line of the force

probably easiest to start by extending the left-hand part until it reaches the line of F, and finding the total length of that :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
hi zeralda21! :smile:


no, it's the closest distance between O and the line of the force

probably easiest to start by extending the left-hand part until it reaches the line of F, and finding the total length of that :wink:

Ouch, that is actually what i meant. But the closest distance is therefore the horizontal distance from O to Fcos(20), no? I'm not sure what you mean. Extend it as:

0.1m+xcot15 ?
 
hi zeralda21! :wink:
zeralda21 said:
But the closest distance is therefore the horizontal distance from O to Fcos(20), no? I'm not sure what you mean. Extend it as:

0.1m+xcot15 ?

on second thoughts, i don't think that works :redface:

try it this way …

draw a line OG parallel to the line of F

then the distance is the sum of the perpendicular distances from that dot in the middle to the line of F, and from that dot in the middle to OG :smile:
 

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