How Do You Calculate the Depth in This Hydrostatics Problem?

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The discussion revolves around a hydrostatics problem involving the calculation of depth related to hydrostatic pressure and torque on a gate. Participants are attempting to understand the principles of equilibrium and the forces acting on the gate.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss calculating torques related to the weight of the gate and hydrostatic pressure forces. There are inquiries about the appropriate point of reference for these calculations and the location of the resultant force.

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Some participants have provided guidance on calculating moments and setting up equilibrium conditions. There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between the forces and moments, with no explicit consensus reached on the correct approach to arrive at the given answer of 0.955 meters.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, with specific reference to the centroid of pressure and its typical location being a point of discussion. There is a noted difficulty in achieving the expected answer despite following the suggested methods.

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Please HELP! Hydrostatics Problem

Hi,

I am really desperate and need help with the following problem in hydroststics.

take a look at the picture:

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the answer is 0.955 meters. I have no idea how they arrived at that answer. Pleeeease HELP!

THANKS SOOOO MUCH!
 
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I'm not sure I can help much here, but you should start with calculating the torques of the weight of the gate and the torque of the resulting hydrostatic pressure force around a wisely chosen point.
 
radou said:
I'm not sure I can help much here, but you should start with calculating the torques of the weight of the gate and the torque of the resulting hydrostatic pressure force around a wisely chosen point.

thanks for the advice, I have done that. What point are your referring to?
 
ceulmad said:
thanks for the advice, I have done that. What point are your referring to?

The point where the hinge of the gate is placed wouldn't be a bad idea.
 
radou said:
The point where the hinge of the gate is placed wouldn't be a bad idea.

So fine, I can calculate the Moment about that point for the 4000kg force (4000*9.81*1.6)
but then what?

i realize that there must be a reacting moment pushing in the opposite direction. But at what location?
 
ceulmad said:
i realize that there must be a reacting moment pushing in the opposite direction. But at what location?

The other moment is the one produced by the resulting force of the hydrostatic pressure, as already mentioned. This resultant force acts at the center of the gate and it 'tries' to open the gate. By setting the sum of these moments equal zero with respect to the mentioned point, you are expressing a condition of equilibrium, i.e. you can find a boundary expression for the height h, since the equation includes the hydrostatic pressure.
 
radou said:
The other moment is the one produced by the resulting force of the hydrostatic pressure, as already mentioned. This resultant force acts at the center of the gate and it 'tries' to open the gate. By setting the sum of these moments equal zero with respect to the mentioned point, you are expressing a condition of equilibrium, i.e. you can find a boundary expression for the height h, since the equation includes the hydrostatic pressure.

again, thanks for your help, bu tthis is what i have been doign all along. Its just I can't get 0.955m to be my answer. Can you try to crunch these numbers?

Another ? is why are you saying that the resulting moment is in the center of the gate? The centroid of pressure is 1/3 from the bottom usually?
 
ceulmad said:
Another ? is why are you saying that the resulting moment is in the center of the gate? The centroid of pressure is 1/3 from the bottom usually?

You're right, my mistake.

I'll look at the answer as soon as I find the time.
 

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