How Do You Calculate the Fourth Displacement in Vector Addition?

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The problem involves a spelunker surveying a cave and following a series of displacements in different directions. The objective is to determine the fourth displacement that returns him to his starting point, using vector addition and the method of components.

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  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss breaking down each vector into x-y components and setting up equations based on the condition that the sum of the displacements equals zero. Some express confusion about how to find the angles and the last dimension, indicating a need for clarification on vector components.

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Some participants have offered guidance on using component analysis to solve for the unknown displacement. Others suggest a graphical approach as an alternative method, indicating a productive exploration of different strategies without reaching a consensus on a single method.

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Participants note the challenge of understanding the angles involved in the problem and the requirement to show prior attempts, reflecting the constraints of the homework context.

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Homework Statement


" A spelunker is surveying a cave. he follows a passage that goes 210 meters straight west, then 180 meters in a direction 45 degrees east of west, then 110 meters at 60 degrees east of south. After a fourth unmeasured displacement he finds himself back where he started. Use the method of components to determine the fourth displacement (magnitude and direction). "


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I have looked around for information on solving this, but am unsure about how to go about finding the other angles to find the magnitude or direction, and am not sure about finding the last dimension. I know I am supposed to show you that i have tried this and believe me I have, but I am new to physics and am pretty much confused on where to even begin this problem.

Thanks for all help.
 
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Fireworkslvr said:

Homework Statement


" A spelunker is surveying a cave. he follows a passage that goes 210 meters straight west, then 180 meters in a direction 45 degrees east of west, then 110 meters at 60 degrees east of south. After a fourth unmeasured displacement he finds himself back where he started. Use the method of components to determine the fourth displacement (magnitude and direction). "


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I have looked around for information on solving this, but am unsure about how to go about finding the other angles to find the magnitude or direction, and am not sure about finding the last dimension. I know I am supposed to show you that i have tried this and believe me I have, but I am new to physics and am pretty much confused on where to even begin this problem.

Thanks for all help.

break each vector into x-y components
{
x-comp = vector magnitude x cos theta
y-comp = v mag x sin theta
},
and then from the question you know that:
x1+x2+x3+x4=0
y1+y2+y3+y4=0

so solve for x4 and y4
 
rootX said:
break each vector into x-y components
{
x-comp = vector magnitude x cos theta
y-comp = v mag x sin theta
},
and then from the question you know that:
x1+x2+x3+x4=0
y1+y2+y3+y4=0

so solve for x4 and y4

Thanks, that helps a lot!
 
Another nice way to do it (if you've got the time) is to solve it graphically, by drawing a scaled version of the problem out. Even if you end up solving it numerically, a sketch often helps by showing you roughly what you should be getting.
 

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