How Do You Calculate the Net Gravitational Force Between Objects?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the net gravitational force between two objects and a third object placed between them. The problem involves a 145 kg object and a 445 kg object separated by 0.420 m, with a 41.0 kg object positioned midway. Participants explore the gravitational forces acting on the 41.0 kg object and the conditions for achieving a net force of zero.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of gravitational forces using the formula F=Gm1m2/r^2 and question the distances involved when the 41.0 kg object is placed midway. There are attempts to clarify the arrangement of the masses and the implications of their distances on the forces calculated.

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There is ongoing clarification regarding the distances from the 41.0 kg object to the other two masses. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the calculations and the interpretation of the problem setup, while others emphasize the need for a clear understanding of the arrangement of the objects.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use to solve the problem. The original poster's understanding of the problem setup is being questioned, particularly regarding the distances involved.

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Hello everyone,

Could someone please help me with this problem?

Homework Statement


A 145kg object and a 445kg object are separated by .420m.
a. Find the net gravitational force exerted by these objects on a 41.0kg object placed midway between them.
b. At what position can the 41.0kg object be placed so as to experience a net force of zero?


Homework Equations


F=Gm1m2/r^2


The Attempt at a Solution



(6.67X10^-11Nm^2/kg)(145kg)(41.0kg)/.420^2=-2.2X10^-6

(6.67X10^-11Nm^2/kg)(445kg)(4)/.420^2=6.7X10^-7

-2.2X10^-6+6.67X10^-7=2.87X10^-6

Thank you very much
 
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If the 41.0 kg object is "placed midway between them", how far is it from the first two masses?

Other than that, looks like you have (a) pretty much.
 
Thank you very much

Could you please tell me if a. looks correct?

For part b., would you just take the first one plus the middle one plus the third one and set it equal to the total force and solve for the middle one?

Thank you
 
a is not quite correct. You have the right idea except that:
1. As I said before, if the 41.0 kg object is "placed midway between them", how far is it from the other two masses?
2. Why do you get a smaller force due to the larger 445 kg mass? Larger masses should exert larger forces. Something is wrong here.

For b, you'll need to write out an expression for the force on the 41 kg mass.
 
Thank you very much

For part a., would I just take 4.7 X 10^-6 and divide it by 2?

Thank you
 
I don't see where "4.7 X 10^-6" comes in, so I'll have to say no, that is not what to do.

For the 3rd time:
If the 41.0 kg object is "placed midway between them", how far is it from the other two masses?
 
It's in the middle. Is that what you mean? So, wouldn't you just take

6.67 X 10^-11(145)(41/2)/.42^2?

6.67 X 10^-11(445kg)(41.0kg)/2/(.42)^2?

Thank you
 
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chocolatelover said:
It's in the middle. Is that what you mean?

It's almost (but not quite) what I mean. What distance is "in the middle" from the other masses? I'm look for the actual distance, in meters, from "in the middle" to one end or the other.

So, wouldn't you just take

6.67 X 10^-11(145)(41/2)/.42^2?

6.67 X 10^-11(445kg)(41.0kg)/2/(.42)^2?

Thank you

We can get to that later, but first it would be helpful to answer the distance question I asked above.
 
Well, in the problem it states that the two objects are separated by .420 m. Is that what you mean? Thus, the 41.0 object is at .420 m, right?

Thank you
 
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Have you drawn a diagram of the 3 masses? You are just not picturing the arrangement correctly.

Sorry, I can't offer any more advice or hints to you.
 

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