How Do You Calculate the Orbital Speed of Satellites?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the orbital speed of two satellites in circular orbits around a planet, with specific parameters provided for each satellite, including their masses and orbital radii.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations for the mass of the planet based on the first satellite's data and question the validity of the results for the second satellite's speed. There is an exploration of the relationship between orbital radius and speed, with suggestions to derive a formula that connects these variables.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants revisiting calculations and questioning assumptions about how to incorporate the planet's radius into the orbital radius. Some participants have provided alternative calculations and interpretations, leading to differing conclusions about the correct speed of the second satellite.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity regarding the interpretation of "orbital radius," with some participants suggesting that it should not include the radius of the planet. This has implications for the calculations being discussed.

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Homework Statement


Two satellites are in circular orbits around a planet that has radius 9.00x10^6 m. One satellite has mass 65.0kg , orbital radius 6.10×10^7m , and orbital speed 4800 m/s. The second satellite has mass 95.0kg and orbital radius 3.20×10^7m .


Homework Equations



v = sqrt(GMplanet/r)
Mplanet = rv^2/G

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried solving for the mass of the plant with the details of the first satellite:

Mplanet = (9x106 + 6.10x107)(4800 m/s)2/ (6.67x10-11)
M = 2.41799x1025 kg

I then used this mass to calculate the speed of the second satellite:

v2 = sqrt(((6.67x10^-11)(2.41799x1025))/(4.1x107)

v = 2.2489x103 m/s
 
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This cannot be correct: the second satellite's orbit is lower, so its speed must be higher.

I suggest that you get a formula that connects speeds and radii symbolically, and then plug in the numbers.
 
Northbysouth said:

Homework Statement


Two satellites are in circular orbits around a planet that has radius 9.00x10^6 m. One satellite has mass 65.0kg , orbital radius 6.10×10^7m , and orbital speed 4800 m/s. The second satellite has mass 95.0kg and orbital radius 3.20×10^7m .


Mplanet = (9x106 + 6.10x107)(4800 m/s)2/ (6.67x10-11)

"Orbital radius" is usually interpreted as the radius of the circular orbit. So, there is no need to add the radius of the planet.
 
I ran the calculation again using v=sqrt(GM/r) with just the orbital radius of the satellite not including the radius of the planet.

Using the first satellite I solved for the mass of the planet:

Mplanet = ((6.10x107)(48002))/(6.67x10-11)
M = 2.10711x1025

Therefore the speed of the second satellite is:

v = sqrt(((6.67x10-11)(2.10711x1025))/(3.2x103)
v = 6.63x103 m/s

6.63x103 m/s is the correct answer.
 

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