How Do You Calculate the Recoil Speed of Thorium 234 After Particle Emission?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the recoil speed of thorium 234 after the emission of a particle from a uranium 238 nucleus, focusing on the principles of conservation of momentum.

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum, attempting to set up the equation for the system. There is confusion regarding the initial conditions and how to apply the conservation principle to find the recoil speed.

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Some participants have offered guidance on writing the conservation of momentum equation, while others express uncertainty about how to proceed with the calculations. Multiple interpretations of the momentum relationship are being explored.

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There is a lack of specific equations provided in the original post, and participants are working through the implications of initial velocities and mass relationships in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A Particle (x) of relative mass of 4 is emitted from a uranium 238 nucleus. Assuming the the particle (x) was originally at rest and was emitted with a speed of 1.4E7 m/s.
calculate the recoil speed of the residual nucleus (thorium 234)

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I know this is to do with the conservation of momentum. so P1=P2

p2=m2v2

so for particle (x) : (4*1.66E-27)*(1.4E7) = 9.296E-20 kgm/sbut initial velocity is 0 and i don't know how to go about calculating the recoil on the uranium nucleus? I am kinda lost..
can anyone help me out?
 
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hi mogley76! :smile:

first write out the general equation for conservation of momentum :wink:
 
m1v1=m2v2 but v1 is 0 right? so I am kinda puzzled as to how i can workout the recoil speed..
 
mogley76 said:
m1v1=m2v2 but v1 is 0 right? so I am kinda puzzled as to how i can workout the recoil speed..

The momenta are equal in magnitude but opposite in direction, so that should be
m1v1 = -m2v2

You can also see this as
m1v1 + m2v2=0

Do you see how to go forward now?
 
so...the recoil speed must be -1.4E7 m/s ? because thety both equal each other but in opposite directions?
 
mogley76 said:
so...the recoil speed must be -1.4E7 m/s ? because thety both equal each other but in opposite directions?

No: that would mean that the velocities are equal and opposite. The momenta are equal and opposite.
 
hi mogley76! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)
mogley76 said:
m1v1=m2v2 but v1 is 0 right? so I am kinda puzzled as to how i can workout the recoil speed..

(try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)

you seem confused as to the basic equation …

conservation of momentum is ∑ mv before = ∑ mv after

in this case, "before" there is only one mass, and its speed is 0, so the LHS (∑ mv before) is 0

ie 0 = ∑ mv after :wink:
 

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