MHB How Do You Calculate the Third Derivative of y = (5x - 1)^(1/2)?

[hatelove]

y = (5x - 1)^{\frac{1}{2}}

So to find the 1st derivative I use the Chain Rule:

y&#039; = \frac{1}{2}(5x - 1)^{\frac{1}{2} - 1} \cdot (5 - 0) \\<br /> = \frac{5}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}

2nd:

Multiplication rule [f'(x)*g(x) + f(x)*g'(x)] and Chain Rule:

y&#039;&#039; = \frac{5}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2}} \\<br /> = 0\cdot (5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2}} + \frac{5}{2}\cdot [-\frac{1}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2} - 1} \cdot (5 - 0)] \\<br /> = \frac{5}{2}\cdot (-\frac{5}{2})(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}} \\<br /> = -\frac{25}{4}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}}

3rd:

Multiplication rule [f'(x)*g(x) + f(x)*g'(x)] and Chain Rule:

y&#039;&#039;&#039; = -\frac{25}{4}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}} \\<br /> = 0\cdot (5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}} + -\frac{25}{4}\cdot [(-\frac{3}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}-1}) \cdot (5 - 0)] \\<br /> = -\frac{25}{4}\cdot (-\frac{15}{2})(5x - 1)^{-\frac{5}{2}} \\<br /> = \frac{375}{8}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{5}{2}} \\<br /> = \frac{375}{8(5x-1)^{\frac{5}{2}}}

I think I got this one wrong but this is how I worked it out...have I done any step incorrectly here?

 

[Jameson]

You got it right. Try using Wolfram to check your answers in the future. It can be really helpful! :)

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Compute+derivative+-25/(4(5x-1)^(3/2))

 

[hatelove]

Oh wow, I typed in "third derivative of" and then the given equation and it found the exact answer I got lol

If only my HP-15c could do this too

Do you know if graphing calculators are capable of this?

 

[Jameson]

Certain ones are, for example the TI-89 but it's better to do these calculations without this kind of help. With great power comes great responsibility! ;)

Many calculators can calculate the derivative at a certain point, so you could type in something like Deriv(x^2, x, 2) meaning calculate the derivative of x^2 with respect to x at the point x=2 and it would output 4. Far less calculators can output the general derivative.

 

[CaptainBlack]

So to find the 1st derivative I use the Chain Rule:

y&#039; = \frac{1}{2}(5x - 1)^{\frac{1}{2} - 1} \cdot (5 - 0) \\<br /> = \frac{5}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}

2nd:

Multiplication rule [f'(x)*g(x) + f(x)*g'(x)] and Chain Rule:

y&#039;&#039; = \frac{5}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2}} \\<br /> = 0\cdot (5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2}} + \frac{5}{2}\cdot [-\frac{1}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2} - 1} \cdot (5 - 0)] \\<br /> = \frac{5}{2}\cdot (-\frac{5}{2})(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}} \\<br /> = -\frac{25}{4}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}}

3rd:

Multiplication rule [f'(x)*g(x) + f(x)*g'(x)] and Chain Rule:

y&#039;&#039;&#039; = -\frac{25}{4}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}} \\<br /> = 0\cdot (5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}} + -\frac{25}{4}\cdot [(-\frac{3}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}-1}) \cdot (5 - 0)] \\<br /> = -\frac{25}{4}\cdot (-\frac{15}{2})(5x - 1)^{-\frac{5}{2}} \\<br /> = \frac{375}{8}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{5}{2}} \\<br /> = \frac{375}{8(5x-1)^{\frac{5}{2}}}

I think I got this one wrong but this is how I worked it out...have I done any step incorrectly here?

You can elliminate a lot of the algebra when doing this by observing that:
\[y'=\frac{5}{2}\;y^{-1}\]
so:
\[y''=-\;\frac{5}{2}y'\;y^{-2}=-\frac{25}{4}\;y^{-3}\]
Then differentiating again gives:
\[y'''=\frac{25\times 3 \times 5}{8}y^{-5}\]

CB